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Re:Free Speech Is in Trouble by Kye on Thursday November 02, 2023 @04:49PM (#38119942)
L1 is the only one I really have trouble with. L2 and L3 are in desperate need of nuance to be remotely persuasive, but that's the thing: the kids they're asking already get it without that nuance. No nuance can save C1-3.

The poll results actually seem to reflect their familiarity with the positions and the typical weakness of arguments for certain ones. I don't think it says anything about their position on free speech.

Re:Free Speech Is in Trouble by keyboard_slap on Thursday November 02, 2023 @05:19PM (#38120306)
> No nuance can save C1-3.

Sure it can, at least for C1. If gender dysphoria isn't a mental disorder, then its treatment doesn't need to be covered by health insurance.

Re:Free Speech Is in Trouble by Kye on Thursday November 02, 2023 @05:25PM (#38120386)
Secret third option: all medical care, including gender affirming, should be collectively funded. That includes gender affirming care for cis people like breast enhancement and Viagra. Problem solved.
Re:Free Speech Is in Trouble by bbbing on Friday November 03, 2023 @09:41PM (#38137253)
Those procedures aren't "gender affirming care" in the sense as is used for treatment of gender dysphoria, though. A man who takes viagra to mitigate erectile dysfunction, or a woman who gets breast implants for either reconstructive or cosmetic reasons, isn't doing so because they want to mimic the appearance of opposite sex. Which is what the euphemism of "gender affirming care" actually means in its original context, as it is applied to trans-identifying people. Let's not pretend that these are the same type of thing.