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Re:Home schooling's rise from fringe to fastest-growing form... by ethbr1 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:12AM (#38111772)
> On r/teachers just the other day, I was reading about one of them complaining that all they really are, are baby-sitters so they parents can work dayshift. Even they know what they're for.

So we're clear, when a teacher complains about being daycare, what they mean is they're:

   - an educator
   - an administrative assistant
   - daycare
The first of those is a reasonable expectation of the job. The second two, less-so.

And so you complain about the unreasonable things, but don't mention the reasonable one... because it's literally the job.

Taking kvetching about ancillary mandates to mean that education isn't happening or isn't still the primary job is weird.

Re:Home schooling's rise from fringe to fastest-growing form... by NoMoreNicksLeft on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:11AM (#38113761)
That isn't what the person meant. They pointed out, clearly, multiple times, that though they were trained as an educator, no education takes place. Leaving only the "daycare" part.

When someone disputes this, what they really mean is that they are uncomfortable with the realization that it is daycare, that it hurts them to consider that something so profoundly part of their status quo is rotten to the core, and it makes their own lives seem dishonest. They would rather than misperception that education still occurs to persist unchallenged.

> because it's literally the job.

Hasn't been, for years. It's not improving/reverting. You're willfully blind to it.

> or isn't still the primary job is weird.

Please don't mistake me. I'm not claiming that education has been secondary to other concerns. I'm saying that it doesn't happen at any significant rate at all, isn't in anyone's list of priorities, and that when it does happen it is accidental and unrepeatable.

Re:Home schooling's rise from fringe to fastest-growing form... by ethbr1 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:30PM (#38117971)
> When someone disputes this, what they really mean is that they are uncomfortable with the realization that it is daycare, that it hurts them to consider that something so profoundly part of their status quo is rotten to the core, and it makes their own lives seem dishonest. They would rather than misperception that education still occurs to persist unchallenged.

Or, they disagree, and they have their own thoughts.

> Please don't mistake me. I'm not claiming that education has been secondary to other concerns. I'm saying that it doesn't happen at any significant rate at all, isn't in anyone's list of priorities, and that when it does happen it is accidental and unrepeatable.

As someone with two parents, multiple family members, and past partners in the profession of education, early childhood and other... we will have to agree to disagree.

I'm sure your opinions are formed from your own experiences.

Mine disagree.