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Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by leloctai on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:00AM (#38095657)
Which is a horrible design on Android. Firefox on my (admittedly relatively old) phone take 20s to load the first page when browser start with uBlock enabled. On desktop this is fine as it only happen once a day. But on the phone it happen a lot since apps getting killed is a normal thing.
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by Sayrus on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:25AM (#38095788)
I have the same issue with UBlock Origin since my phone is quite aggressive when killing apps. While it is indeed annoying, I don't think it's a bad design.

Maybe it's lacking a setting to toggle this (Suspend all network until lists are loaded doesn't control this behavior), but I wouldn't want to load pages full of ads on mobile simply because the app got killed.

The real issue for me is my phone killing applications when it has both battery and memory available.

Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by LegitShady on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:35AM (#38095840)
I don't get this behaviour on Firefox in Android at all.
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by leloctai on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @06:59AM (#38096742)
Do you mind sharing your ubo settings?
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by LegitShady on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @01:17PM (#38101457)
I didn't change anything - just the default settings. Phone is a pixel 6a.
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by danielbln on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:08AM (#38095701)
My 4 year old S10E does not exhibit this behavior at all (Firefox with uBlock).
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by erremerre on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @05:03AM (#38096009)
S10e was the peak of mobile design.
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by danielbln on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @05:12AM (#38096078)
Preach! I'm holding onto it for dear life, perfect form factor, no BS.
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by plussed_reader on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @09:39AM (#38098022)
I could've done without the useless Samsung button that doesn't do anything but whine for a Samsung account before you can change the behavior of the button. So I used adb to disable the button entirely, to prevent the whiny Samsung page from accidentally being pressed on the button raised off the left side of the s10e.
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by fuzztester on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @08:11AM (#38097212)
Why was it that?
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by erremerre on Thursday November 02, 2023 @06:54AM (#38111644)
Small form factor, powerful enough to keep working fine today (as long as not gaming), has DeX, has audio jack, physical fingerprint reader sideways, and samsung support (no glitches for important apps)

But it has some pretty big downsides, the battery is small, and it is rather bad at this point of life. The audiojack has been oversized by constant use and barely holds now the headphone, stuck in Android 12.

Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by nullandvoid on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @10:08AM (#38098381)
I feel the same about my s7 edge I keep as a spare, although currently using the s21 ultra and no complaints
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by TeMPOraL on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @12:13PM (#38100398)
S22, I had to find a way to exclude Firefox from memory management altogether, because the auto-killing behavior was getting ridiculous. Unfortunately, there is still no way to prevent Firefox itself from unloading tabs.

I know I'm in the minority, but I consider both of these behaviors to be a very bad and extremely frustrating idea.

Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by PawgerZ on Monday November 06, 2023 @10:20AM (#38163764)
Any phone without an IR Blaster can not be the peak of mobile design. Note 4 master mobile.
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by boudin on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @05:57AM (#38096350)
And my 7 years old oneplus 3T neither
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by leloctai on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @06:58AM (#38096734)
Do you mind sharing your ubo settings?
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by boudin on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @07:16AM (#38096833)
Just the default one plus french list in regional settings. To be fair though, I had a tablet from the same time but it was way cheaper than this phone, specifically having way less ram and firefox was not really usable.
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by leloctai on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @06:58AM (#38096732)
Do you mind sharing your ubo settings?
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by danielbln on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @07:04AM (#38096773)
Whatever the defaults are after installation, I didn't adjust the settings at all.
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by Moldoteck on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:47AM (#38095897)
i'm pretty sure there's an setting/option to disable battery optimization for firefox
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by leloctai on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @07:00AM (#38096748)
In fact there are multiple switches you have to turn, however I've made sure to check all of them.
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by Sander_Marechal on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @05:56AM (#38096345)
IIRC there's a setting for that in UBo (look for pre-fetching)
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by leloctai on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @07:02AM (#38096761)
I'm already allowing prefetching
Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by ComputerGuru on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @12:04PM (#38100234)
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that’s a different thing altogether.

Edit:

Yeah, disabling prefetch:

> This will ensure no TCP connection is opened at all for blocked requests: It's for your own protection privacy-wise.

uBlock holds itself (ideally) to a higher standard than not executing js or hiding an element, it tries to prevent the network connections from even taking place. This is for browser prefetching that happens on many pages even after the environment and extensions are fully loaded, in many different contexts, to speed up requests by having the binary payload of the response already available in cache before it is needed.

Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by cbarrick on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @08:27AM (#38097330)
Chrome desktop since v110 has started killing background tabs and reloading them upon use. [1]

Lately, I've noticed Chrome being really aggressive about this.

[1]: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/chrome-110-will-auto...

Re:uBlock-Origin – 1.53.0 by Goz3rr on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @10:19AM (#38098519)
I'm on the regular stable Chrome build and was explicitly asked on several devices over the last few months if I wanted to enable memory saver or not, it wasn't automatic for me at least.