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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by aatd86 on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @05:06AM (#38082010)
Wait telemetry is opt-out?

And I've never heard people complain?

Genuinely surprised as it seems to be quite a commonly controversial thing amongst devs.

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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by benterix on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @05:12AM (#38082050)
Well, Apple generally has so much info about your every step people stopped caring a long time ago.
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by Ensorceled on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @09:48AM (#38084765)
I think you are talking about Google, not Apple.
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by schizm on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @04:48PM (#38091162)
No, both of them actually. Don't trust them too much.

This calls out some soft spots that were exposed during the Hong Kong riots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ9LR8homt4

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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by kergonath on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @07:20AM (#38096857)
Not the OP, but I am not watching a random YouTube video from a random guy to help you prove your point. I can confidently link you some of these that “prove” that the Earth is flat.
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by The_Colonel on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @05:50AM (#38082333)
Yeah, that's kind of surprising, given that Apple is often hailed as a privacy champion.
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by Ensorceled on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @08:18AM (#38083618)
It’s not really opt-out or opt-in: it’s an explicit, informed choice you have to make when you start up your Mac after first purchase or major upgrade.
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by u320 on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @06:36AM (#38082697)
No the default action is to do nothing (ie do not install the OS). You have to actively consent or reject.
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by stephen_g on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @06:37AM (#38082710)
It's not exactly 'opt-out', they ask you on first boot or after major upgrades, and you either select "Share with Apple" or "Don't Share with Apple". It's just that the "Share" button is coloured blue so looks more default since it's more prominent (at least on iOS, I think it's basically the same on macOS).

It's not like it's enabled by default and you have to know to go and find the setting to turn it off or anything..

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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by nicoburns on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @06:39AM (#38082732)
It’s opt-out, but it’s not enabled silently. It’s a pre-ticked checkbox on a screen you have to review when you first setup the machine (and when you do a major version OS upgrade).

IMO that’s quite different to something that’s just silently on by default, and requires you to set an environment variable or run a command to opt out.

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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by ballenf on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @07:49AM (#38083331)
On a phone there is no box at all. It's two options to select. The opt-in is highlighted, but there is no "next" button -- you have to select an option.
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by IggleSniggle on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @09:55AM (#38084859)
I don't think it's pre-checked, is it? I thought it was Yes/No buttons
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