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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by josephcsible on Monday October 30, 2023 @10:33PM (#38079492)
To me, "personal daily driver" sounds like where you'd do online banking. A MacBook from 2015 can't run any OS newer than Big Sur, which is EOL right about now. And it sounds really imprudent to do online banking from an insecure device.
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by tom_ on Monday October 30, 2023 @10:39PM (#38079538)
My 2015 MBP is supported in macOS Monterey.
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by josephcsible on Monday October 30, 2023 @10:45PM (#38079581)
The "Pro" makes a difference there. The Air and Pro from 2015 both got Monterey, but the regular MacBook from the same year didn't.
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by ac29 on Monday October 30, 2023 @10:57PM (#38079690)
It should still be able to run an up to date web browser though, right?

If one is that concerned about someone exploiting an OS level security flaw to exfiltrate their online banking credentials (wildly unlikely), they should just be doing that stuff in a VM or similarly isolated environment anyways.

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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by josephcsible on Monday October 30, 2023 @11:08PM (#38079773)
> It should still be able to run an up to date web browser though, right?

For a while, yes, but the browser being up-to-date doesn't make an EOL OS safe to expose to the Internet.

> If one is that concerned about someone exploiting an OS level security flaw to exfiltrate their online banking credentials (wildly unlikely), they should just be doing that stuff in a VM or similarly isolated environment anyways.

Just doing sensitive stuff in a VM isn't good protection at all, since a malicious host can trivially compromise the guest.

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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by astrange on Monday October 30, 2023 @11:05PM (#38079751)
Many US bank websites have so few features I'm not even sure what hacking mine could get someone. They can transfer from my checking to my savings account?
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by andrewprock on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @12:29AM (#38080314)
I assure you, I take security quite seriously. The version of MacOS I'm using is nowhere near the top security risk.
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by type0 on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @12:31AM (#38080332)
> A MacBook from 2015 can't run any OS newer than Big Sur

It can, Ubuntu runs just fine on it

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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by josephcsible on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @12:50AM (#38080476)
You're right, I should have been more precise. But you still won't get security updates to firmware anymore that way.
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by rokkitmensch on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @03:47AM (#38081408)
If this is your personal threat model, I commend you on an exciting life well-lived that appears to entail sophisticated personal protection of the GPG keys and Bitcoin you need to run your business empire securely.
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by eviks on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @01:43AM (#38080740)
It can run the latest OS with the open core project
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Re:Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced c... by rokkitmensch on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @03:49AM (#38081415)
The problem from another angle: I wouldn't trust anything made in the last decade for my airgap box.
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