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Re:Gmail, Yahoo announce new 2024 authentication requirement... by pests on Monday October 30, 2023 @09:55PM (#38079152)
NextDoor is the absolute fucking worst with this. They sign you up to 10+ lists each in over 9+ categories that results in what feels like 100 different "notification types".

Unsubscribing from an email just unsubscribes from that one list. They don't show any other lists or categories (or imply there are more) during this process.

Once you login you are greeted with a multi-page disaster to manually untoggle each of the near 100 list types.

Then when they add new notifications it is auto-on for everyone.

Re:Gmail, Yahoo announce new 2024 authentication requirement... by appplication on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @01:00AM (#38080541)
Yes I ran into this the other day when I tried Nextdoor out for the first time. I was actually so in awe of the insane and sociopathic dark pattern that is their email/notification subscription system that I immediately deleted the app. I don’t want to be a user on a platform that treats its users with so little respect.
Re:Gmail, Yahoo announce new 2024 authentication requirement... by a_wild_dandan on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @02:34AM (#38081010)
I did the exact same thing a few days ago. I thought NextDoor would be social media that connects me with my local community. Nope. It’s overwhelmingly “recommend me someone for <service>”, camera footage of shady people or crime reports, and complaints about neighbors. The excessive emails were the final straw that took me from indifference to actively excising NextDoor from my phone.

So if anyone has ideas for connecting with your local community, I’m still looking…

Re:Gmail, Yahoo announce new 2024 authentication requirement... by 4ndrewl on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @03:08AM (#38081175)
We just have a WhatsApp group...
Re:Gmail, Yahoo announce new 2024 authentication requirement... by pests on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @03:13AM (#38081197)
> camera footage of shady people or crime reports

Which are usually just black people existing or generic "people walking by my house" reports.

Re:Gmail, Yahoo announce new 2024 authentication requirement... by gumby on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @04:00AM (#38081490)
> I was actually so in awe of the insane and sociopathic dark pattern that is their email/notification subscription system…

At least it’s on brand. Once you start reading you will be so in awe of the insane and sociopathic people who do the bulk of the posting.

Re:Gmail, Yahoo announce new 2024 authentication requirement... by vintermann on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @03:16AM (#38081218)
Another for the hall of shame: MyHeritage. They will never, ever stop spamming you if they get your email. Set your language to Chinese and delete your account, now they will spam you in Chinese.

The special award though, must go to Wal-mart. That company doesn't exist in my country. I obviously never interacted with them in any way. I still get their "newsletter", and sure enough, it's authenticated to come from their domain.

Re:Gmail, Yahoo announce new 2024 authentication requirement... by josephg on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @08:22AM (#38083668)
Why do you bother fighting to unsubscribe properly with a company like that? I have a rule: I will try 1 time to legitimately unsubscribe, using the normal flow. If you keep sending me email after that, I will mark every email you send as spam and my email provider will stop delivering your mail.

I started doing this years ago after watching a talk by some Gmail devs on how they think of spam. They said they internally - controversially - redefined spam to be any email the user doesn’t want to receive. Well guess what? I don’t want to receive shitty marketing emails after I unsubscribe. If you send them to me, I’ll get you listed as a spammer.

I encourage everyone else to do the same thing. Life is too short to put up with this crap.

Re:Gmail, Yahoo announce new 2024 authentication requirement... by pests on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @03:15PM (#38089969)
I was taking a low-effort apporch of just unsubscribing from emails and newsletters as they came in. I saw a huge decrease in unwanted emails at first but NextDoor kept coming _no matter what_. Finnally in frustration I logged in, did half the above unsubscribing, then just deleted my account instead. I agree.
Re:Gmail, Yahoo announce new 2024 authentication requirement... by babypuncher on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @12:35PM (#38087510)
This should be illegal