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Re:Hiroshima and the Myths of Military Targets and Unconditi... by shepherdjerred on Monday October 30, 2023 @01:52AM (#38066133)
Ultimately it is the civilians who provide the resources for their government and military to function.

If your government engaged in widespread offensive wars that leave millions dead, then I think that your civilians become a valid military target.

If your country isn't respecting the other civilians, then why would you expect another country to respect your civilians?

Re:Hiroshima and the Myths of Military Targets and Unconditi... by catlover76 on Monday October 30, 2023 @02:45AM (#38066383)
> If your country isn't respecting the other civilians, then why would you expect another country to respect your civilians?

At a time when we have seen the Israel-Palestine conflict ratchet up to the worst levels of violence in decades, maybe we should be hesitant to accept this position. This kind of thinking on both sides there is part of how and why they are where they are.

Re:Hiroshima and the Myths of Military Targets and Unconditi... by shepherdjerred on Monday October 30, 2023 @01:01PM (#38072186)
You might interpret my previous comment as saying "it's okay to kill civilians", which wasn't my point.

To phrase it a little better: if some country is committing atrocities at scale, then I believe any amount of force is justified to bring that to an end.

Re:Hiroshima and the Myths of Military Targets and Unconditi... by catlover76 on Monday October 30, 2023 @04:04PM (#38074948)
Yeah, sorry, after rereading your comment, I realized I may have responded to a point you didn't quite make.
Re:Hiroshima and the Myths of Military Targets and Unconditi... by kiba on Monday October 30, 2023 @04:35AM (#38066946)
History has demonstrated that kind of thinking is going to harden resolve. It's militarily useless and morally repugnant.