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Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by pydry on Sunday October 29, 2023 @02:57PM (#38061508)
>if you think that #metoo stops you. If it did, you were misbehaving to start with.

If you read up on the Richard Stallman #metoo cancelation attempt I'd really like to know how you thought he was misbehaving because from my perspective it was simply used to jeer at and bully somebody vulnerable.

I think it's pretty rational to think that could happen to somebody else.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by astrange on Sunday October 29, 2023 @03:39PM (#38061903)
Approximately everything RMS has done in his life is "misbehaving". That's why the FSF is famously ultra-combative.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by pydry on Sunday October 29, 2023 @04:07PM (#38062199)
His activism is quite bad for profits and that makes some people angry at him.

This indirectly led to him being accused of being a sexual predator but it doesnt mean he actually is one.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by astrange on Sunday October 29, 2023 @04:13PM (#38062260)
What about the part of his activism where he makes up stupid baby names for everything he doesn't like, shouts at all his colleagues and eats skin off his toes?
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by pydry on Sunday October 29, 2023 @04:37PM (#38062524)
The attempts at character assassination are a natural side effect of his profit-hostile activism.

The attacks on his character and the noisy tantrum Google had over AGPL a few years ago (e.g. even banning it from their own version of github for a while) are manifestations of the same desire to see him and his movement nullified.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by astrange on Sunday October 29, 2023 @04:39PM (#38062545)
It's funny because the GPL is not anti-profit, as there's two very natural models for it: one where you sell commercial licenses for people who can't use GPL software, and one where you sell support and development contracts for it.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by pydry on Sunday October 29, 2023 @06:55PM (#38063681)
It isnt anti the concept of profit, it just had the effect of chewing through a lot of profit margins. The GPL was responsible for breaking Microsoft's desktop OS monopoly, for instance.

A watered down FSF run by an inoffensive do-nothing would be a better outcome for big tech than leaving him in charge. Hence the all the attempts to cancel him, including via cynically hijacking #metoo.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by mcpackieh on Sunday October 29, 2023 @06:24PM (#38063458)
None of that makes him a sexual predator. You're using "he's a weirdo" to imply "he's dangerous". Obvious bullshit.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by astrange on Monday October 30, 2023 @12:25AM (#38065674)
I never said he's dangerous. I would say he's obnoxious and antisocial.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by mcpackieh on Monday October 30, 2023 @10:16AM (#38069724)
Why would you bring that up in relation to " Richard Stallman #metoo cancellation attempt", unless you were trying to insinuate some sort of connection between his "obnoxious antisocial" tendencies and the sexual predator allegations (that is what is meant by "#metoo cancellation attempt")
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by fsociety on Sunday October 29, 2023 @03:26PM (#38061748)
I could spontaneously combust tomorrow, but I don’t build my life around that. Interacting with people has a risk associated with it. For women, this risk is much higher. For men, now with things like #metoo, the risk has been raised. If you are out talking with a woman and get weird/bad vibes, politely excuse yourself and stop interacting with them. Don’t dig a deeper hole. The majority of woman will let you know if they are not interested. Poor social skills does not excuse behavior which makes someone feel unsafe.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by pydry on Sunday October 29, 2023 @03:39PM (#38061897)
>For men, now with things like #metoo, the risk has been raised.

Yes, that was my entire point. The movement didn't only mean that more Weinsteins got what they deserved. It also lowered the bar of what is considered "creepy" and raised the risks of behavior which is perceived as such.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by pacija on Sunday October 29, 2023 @05:16PM (#38062895)
A lot of people basically don't have strong enough urge to fcuk. Something is skrewed with the chemistry. Social aspects are just noise around it.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by zlg_codes on Sunday October 29, 2023 @06:14PM (#38063384)
What right does society have to demand that men act docile? Nobody cares an iota for our SAFETY, let alone our comfort.

A society that isn't built on reciprocation is not a society worthy of my respect.