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Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by dangus on Sunday October 29, 2023 @09:20AM (#38058351)
An alternative read on your idea is more of an elitist view of how we spend our free time. You’re basically judging the quality of what people choose to do.

I’m allowed to just exist and be happy with it. Perhaps I don’t need a hobby to keep me happy. Perhaps my favorite thing to do is watch Netflix with my family. Who are you to judge?

It really has nothing to do with the low quality of dating apps, that can be blamed squarely on Match.com’s monopolistic anti-competitive tactics.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by BiteCode_dev on Sunday October 29, 2023 @09:24AM (#38058379)
I wish it were true, but no.

Unless you are Jesus or Buddha, there are things that will very likely make you unhappy.

e.g: eating a lot of crappy food and spending a lot of time watching tv shows are one of them. It diminishes your health, put your dopamine system in shamble and bring no meaning in your life. It's very rare people are happy in those conditions.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by dangus on Sunday October 29, 2023 @10:02AM (#38058745)
I wish your comment were true, but no. I’m right and you’re wrong.

The happiness police has determined that you are the one who is unhappy.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by BiteCode_dev on Sunday October 29, 2023 @10:31AM (#38058965)
It's one of the rare instance where biology, sociology, philosophy and religion kinda agree.

You can share your own opinion as usual, but it's going to be a hard sale.

It's not about forcing the idea on you, rather it's reporting what a lot of humanity have found to be true on the long run.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by lazide on Sunday October 29, 2023 @10:25AM (#38058924)
Is someone forcing anyone to sit down and do those things? Could they go for a walk instead?
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by ben_w on Sunday October 29, 2023 @10:41AM (#38059039)
"Going for a walk" is great, when you can do it.

Based on my experiences when I visited the USA, with sidewalks in most of the states I visited suddenly stopping for no apparent reason forcing me to re-trace my steps and take a different route, or with many road crossings feeling so dangerous that I was seriously tempted to take a taxi even for really small distances[0]? There's plenty of places where the city designers make this unnecessarily hard.

One of the reasons I chose Berlin over San Francisco when I was deciding how to show the ultimate lawful middle finger to UK politics, was that I like walking.

[0] it's only the 0.4 miles from the The Cupertino Hotel to 1 Infinite Loop, but ten lanes on the North De Anza Boulevard and 2/3 on the on/off ramps connecting it with the Junipero Serra Freeway is terrifying.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by lazide on Sunday October 29, 2023 @11:08AM (#38059267)
Very true, especially in the specifics IMO. The friction getting to a park is non trivial in that area too.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by agent327 on Sunday October 29, 2023 @12:46PM (#38060325)
I was staying in the Holiday Inn Express at Dubai airport the other day, which is less than 400m from the entrance to Terminal 3 at that same airport (and the metro station located there), making it a convenient hotel for my few days in Dubai.

What I hadn't noticed was that there is a major road inbetween, and that the walking time, according to Google Maps, is 92 minutes, covering a distance of 6.8km! So yeah, I took a taxi...

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by ardourdev on Sunday October 29, 2023 @12:58PM (#38060449)
Agreed about Cupertino but San Francisco is very walkable!
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by BiteCode_dev on Sunday October 29, 2023 @10:32AM (#38058970)
That's what I meant about human being biased to that attitude.

We technically have a choice, but practically, our biology and social context make one path very attractive.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by dasudasu on Sunday October 29, 2023 @11:28AM (#38059472)
I used to not have a tv by choice and go on walks all the time as I had nothing to do. I stopped doing it as it became weird and lonely past a certain point and age. There’s nothing quite like seeing people out in the world with purpose while shambling without even a real destination. Turns out humans are pretty good at avoiding unpleasant experiences and watch tv for a reason.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by lazide on Sunday October 29, 2023 @11:44AM (#38059630)
Opiate of the masses is descriptive. Lately it seems more like amphetamines though.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by jksflkjl3jk3 on Sunday October 29, 2023 @12:23PM (#38060065)
You began feeling uncomfortable going on a walk by yourself after a certain age?

I don't think that's a common experience. I'm in my 30's and love wandering aimlessly though a city or somewhere in nature. I doubt that will change as I continue to age.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by johnnyanmac on Sunday October 29, 2023 @11:08PM (#38065263)
TBH I'm mostly doing it to try and get back to shape. Too fat to run without stressig my joints, so walking/hiking is the next best part.

can feel a bit lonely seeing other groups pass by. But you see your app tell you you got 4 miles in and burned 800 calories and you realize that you're progressing.

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by Eumenes on Sunday October 29, 2023 @09:39AM (#38058547)
There's nothing wrong with watching TV/Netflix in your free time. Its a free country. But, don't be surprised if alot of prospective dates to find that boring or milquetoast. Dating profiles seem to be written by ChatGPT, for both men and women, and the most common included "hobby" is generally, Netflix. Imo, it screams: low effort.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by jwells89 on Sunday October 29, 2023 @10:02AM (#38058750)
Another type of profile some might find boring are those where the person’s hobbies are those that are the area’s “defaults”, like a profile for someone living in the Pacific Northwest mentioning that they hike… nothing wrong with that as a hobby, but when almost everybody in the area on the app has that as their hobby too it’s not going to help you stand out.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by Eumenes on Sunday October 29, 2023 @10:19AM (#38058886)
Hiking, Netflix, concerts, and brunch probably covers 95% of young adults in the PNW. Personally, defining your personality by watching TV is objectively boring and lazy. Dating is alot about marketing yourself, which I'm sure dating coaches would agree on, so yeah, I'd encourage people to aim higher and at least make stuff up that sounds more interesting.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by johnnyanmac on Sunday October 29, 2023 @11:16PM (#38065303)
Not impossible, you gotta spice it up. Don't just say "I love Barbie" say "I love Barbie for its loud, brash feminist message and absolutely masterful set props to portray the Barbie world". There, you still watch Netflix but you show you think deeply about the media around you and get out your political philosophy without making it sound like you only think in politics.

You should probably pick up other hobbies, but a lot of everything in life is all about presentation. You kinda need to do the opposite for tech a lot of the time unless you are specifically going for a tech oriented partner; don't describe your job as you would to a co-worker ("I'm a software engineer who works on the pathfinding algorithms in Google maps"), but give a quick elevator pitch ("I work at Google and I help figure out your destination"... and sure insert some zinger if you're clever).

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by dangus on Sunday October 29, 2023 @10:04AM (#38058766)
Wow so not only am I being told to get myself a hobby but it has to be so unique that nobody else is doing it?

It’s no wonder these dating apps aren’t working when standards are so high!

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by Detrytus on Sunday October 29, 2023 @10:14AM (#38058846)
Ideally you need at least two hobbies: one that you and your Tinder match have in common, so you can do it together, and the other one that is weird and unique so you can impress them, and sustain their interest :-D
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by jwells89 on Sunday October 29, 2023 @10:42AM (#38059053)
With the way dating apps work, you’ve gotta try to make an impression because they make users feel embarrassed for choice. If your profile is basically the same as everybody else’s you’re probably gonna get swiped left unless you’ve got outstanding looks and/or eye-catching photos.

Just put yourself in the shoes of someone who might see your profile. If I’m a bearded guy who enjoys hiking, Netflix, and IPAs what reason do they have to swipe right on me compared to the other 50 bearded guys who also enjoy hiking, Netflix, and IPAs?

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by mcpackieh on Sunday October 29, 2023 @11:17AM (#38059350)
Watching TV barely qualifies as a hobby at all, it's something you passively do in a pure-consumption mode. A common hobby that involves you going through a creative process is much better than a pure-consumption 'hobby'. Even "I like to discuss the TV I watch" would be a huge improvement.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by zer0-c00l on Sunday October 29, 2023 @11:42AM (#38059608)
Why is this a surprise? Dating app success is about your ability to market yourself and stand out from the crowd.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by zo1 on Sunday October 29, 2023 @11:12AM (#38059304)
Society structures itself in such a way to achieve equilibrium in all things, eventually. There is an abundance of "free time" so things, hobbies, culture, politics, sex, everything has slowly waddled into a zone that seeks to fully-utilize all that free time in whichever way it can.
Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by johnnyanmac on Sunday October 29, 2023 @11:05PM (#38065246)
>I’m allowed to just exist and be happy with it. Perhaps I don’t need a hobby to keep me happy. Perhaps my favorite thing to do is watch Netflix with my family. Who are you to judge?

See heres the difference, "your family". your goal with Netflix in that sentence isn't necessarily to just enjoy your favorite shows, it's to bond together with people you very likely spent years taking care of.

Now, as for me with no hobbies as a single overweight dude in the suburbs who's only possible redeeming factor is making decent money... Do you think I have a chance of achieving such a family if I took on your quote (minus the "with my family")? Even if Tinder wasn't enshittified I'd sure have a hard time carrying a conversation with any potential dates. Yes, they will judge me, hard. I'm not physically attractive enough to ignore being interesting (and not that financially attractive either. I'm not buying a partner 4 star meals every day levels of rich).

(I am mostly underselling myself here btw... mostly. I do have hobbies past Netflix thankfully).