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Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by xkekjrktllss on Friday October 27, 2023 @08:37PM (#38045755)
the west had a different opinion on russia doing the same in ukraine
Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by XorNot on Friday October 27, 2023 @08:40PM (#38045776)
The hell are you talking about? The predominant talking point of western commentators in the early phases of the war was the complete lunacy of Russia invading a place, and then using local cellphone networks to communicate, leaving in place a massive highly connected civilian population which didn't like them.
Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by petertodd on Friday October 27, 2023 @08:48PM (#38045840)
Because Russia's invasion is clearly illegal and immoral. Every act they do in furtherance of that goal is a crime. Every bullet fired, every cell phone tower and every power transformer destroyed.

Israel is clearly defending themselves against a genocidal adversary who just killed more Jews in one day than any day since the Holocaust. They have every right to invade Gaza to eliminate that threat.

Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by logicchains on Friday October 27, 2023 @08:51PM (#38045868)
>Israel is clearly defending themselves against a genocidal adversary who just killed more Jews in one day than any day since the Holocaust

And Israel had previously killed way more Palestinian civilians than that. Why is a Jewish life worth more than a Palestinian life?

Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by shihab on Friday October 27, 2023 @09:00PM (#38045939)
The ground invasion hasn't even begun, they have already killed 6 times more people than Hamas did. [1]

[1] https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-re...

Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by djaro on Friday October 27, 2023 @09:27PM (#38046164)
You're getting downvoted for telling the truth. Crazy how even here people are straight up parroting Hamas propaganda about how Israel is actually bad for defending themselves.
Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by catlover76 on Friday October 27, 2023 @09:32PM (#38046198)
At best, you are straw manning the other side's arguments here. But for the most part, you are alleging comments and language that don't seem to appear in this thread.
Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by aaomidi on Friday October 27, 2023 @08:54PM (#38045898)
So the thousands of children killed in Gaza are guilty?
Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by djaro on Friday October 27, 2023 @09:25PM (#38046150)
The idea that Israel is killing "thousands of children" comes directly from Hamas, no other countries have verified that.

Considering a week ago Hamas dropped a rocket on their own hospital and then claimed "Israel killed 500 people", I don't believe a single number coming from them.

Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by jacquesm on Friday October 27, 2023 @09:31PM (#38046196)
Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by bluish29 on Friday October 27, 2023 @09:31PM (#38046191)
I will agree with you for a second. We don't trust hamas. What about a truce to help civilians and deliver aid and send UN verification team? Wouldn't that be great for people and for morals of the great Isreali people?

Oh, I forgot that US veto every attempt for a ceasefire or truce and isreal said it will not respect it anyway.

Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by bawolff on Friday October 27, 2023 @09:53PM (#38046337)
Normally ceasefires only happen when its beneficial to both sides. One side doesn't get to call a time-out in a war just because they suddenly started losing. That's not the way war works and wouldn't happen in any other conflict either.
Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by arp242 on Friday October 27, 2023 @09:08PM (#38045996)
"The West" doesn't have a single opinion. If there's one topic where opinions are sharply divided then it's this. Any attempt to pigeonhole what "The West" thinks on this topic is nonsense.
Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by xkekjrktllss on Friday October 27, 2023 @09:17PM (#38046077)
tell yourself whatever gets you to sleep at night, but the hegemonic consensus decides where the big bombs drop
Re:The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete by bawolff on Friday October 27, 2023 @09:47PM (#38046300)
Could you link to what you are referring to? I don't recall anyone claiming russia attempting to disrupt communications was immoral or a violation of norms, but perhaps i missed it.