Re:The Negative Impact of Mobile-First Web Design on Desktop
by hasoleju on Thursday October 26, 2023 @03:16PM
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I like the mental model and I have often witnessed the meddling you mentioned.
My favorite kind of meddling:
The current state of a software product is presented to C-Level. After listening (usually) for a few minutes one of the most senior people in the room starts expressing a strong opinion about how a certain color should be changed.
Now the color scheme discussion starts. The complexity of enabling an interaction of a user with the software through the interface is not discussed at all.
At least changing a color usually doesn't harm the usability too much.
Re:The Negative Impact of Mobile-First Web Design on Desktop
by asternout on Thursday October 26, 2023 @10:25PM
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They just feel like they should say something about it, and that's the low hanging fruit.
Re:The Negative Impact of Mobile-First Web Design on Desktop
by d0m3 on Saturday October 28, 2023 @02:58AM
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That's called bike shedding! People tend to avoid complex stuff as it's much easier to discuss the simple stuff
Re:The Negative Impact of Mobile-First Web Design on Desktop
by iamcasen on Thursday October 26, 2023 @03:36PM
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You've outlined it so well! "you're stuck between... and you're just doing your best to make it all work."
Couple that with the fact that the whole front-end world has gone completely bonkers, reinventing the wheel so many times in the last 10 years I'm surprised my head hasn't separated from my body.
It's funny that things have come full-circle these days, going back to server-rendered views. My career literally witnessed the entire move from HTML -> SPA -> HTML again. It only took roughly 16 years.
Re:The Negative Impact of Mobile-First Web Design on Desktop
by mmcnl on Thursday October 26, 2023 @05:10PM
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You don't see the value add?
Re:The Negative Impact of Mobile-First Web Design on Desktop
by phero_cnstrcts on Friday October 27, 2023 @01:58AM
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People have even gone all the way back and started writing inline styles again. (Tailwind)
Re:The Negative Impact of Mobile-First Web Design on Desktop
by niedzielski on Thursday October 26, 2023 @11:52PM
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Thanks for sharing. Do you still implement your own designs or "throw it over the wall"? Any tips on making the switch?
Having done all three, I have a mental model with two axes: appreciation and meddling. It might be appropriate to sketch it here.
With design, the result of your work ends up being visual, so you get a lot of appreciation for it. Maybe too much, sometimes. On the other hand, everyone has an opinion about how you could do your job better, and they're happy to stick their fingers into your work (because it's so easy, you know?).
With back-end development, nobody is going to meddle in your work except other engineers: by meddle, I mean step in and tell you how to do it better. That's because they don't know what you do at all. The other side of that opaqueness, though, is that you rarely get credit for good work. Stuff just works the way it should.
Front-end development is in between the two. People will give you credit when things work the way they should, and when they look nice, and so on. But, half the time when an application is "snappy" and performant, they'll credit the designer for it (ha ha). At the same time, they'll also tell you how things "should" work, based on how other applications do it. Meanwhile, you're stuck between what the designer approved, and what the back-end supports, and you're just doing your best to make it all work.