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Re:Dear Google Cloud: Your Deprecation Policy Is Killing You by Havoc on Thursday October 26, 2023 @07:52AM (#38024343)
Yep. Been navigating the firestore / datastore maze and even though it mostly works I still can’t quite tell how the bits relate to each other. There is firestore on fire base side. And then on gcp side also firestore. Except it’s called datastore there. And comes in native flavour and datastore mode. And then there is firestore compatibility with native mode datastore. But also datastore in datastore mode.

And they all have different documentation pages and APIs and pricing and honestly wtf google

Re:Dear Google Cloud: Your Deprecation Policy Is Killing You by vrosas on Thursday October 26, 2023 @09:16AM (#38025103)
I can understand the confusion. A brief history lesson.

Firebase: a paas that google bought that included a real-time nosql db (also casually called firebase)

Datastore: googles OG serverless nosql db that was tightly baked into appengine as part of their own paas

After buying firebase google decided the db implementation was shit and set out to write their own. In typical google fashion they picked the most confusing name and called it firestore.

Rather than maintain 2 different nosql databases google quietly broke datastore free from appengine and migrated everyone’s data to firestore. But to maintain compatibility they kept both sets of APIs so now you have Firestore native (to get people to move off firebase) and firestore in datastore mode (for anyone who was using the og datastore). The 2 APIs still have specific features and access patterns hence the differences in billing.

You can access and manage firebase both from the GCP console and the Firebase console but it’s the same db, same as how firebase storeage is really just GCS. So that adds another layer of confusion.

Hope this helps.

Re:Dear Google Cloud: Your Deprecation Policy Is Killing You by scetron on Thursday October 26, 2023 @11:17AM (#38026715)
What would help is including a link from all the respective documentation to this comment.
Re:Dear Google Cloud: Your Deprecation Policy Is Killing You by Havoc on Thursday October 26, 2023 @03:43PM (#38030774)
Thanks - that is indeed helpful!