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Re:Lockheed Martin Dark Ice: a quantum magnetometer geoposit... by tomsto on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:12PM (#38016147)
Very interesting, and amazing technology. But… How is it unjammable? Couldn’t you just generate a big magnetic field?
Re:Lockheed Martin Dark Ice: a quantum magnetometer geoposit... by tantony on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:19PM (#38016263)
Magnetic field drops off by an inverse-cubed law (as opposed to inverse-squared for RF). So it would be a lot more impractical to cover large volumes.
Re:Lockheed Martin Dark Ice: a quantum magnetometer geoposit... by tomsto on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:25PM (#38016343)
Thanks. I would still be curious to know how the strength of an artificial magnetic field at a range of say 10 km compares to the order of magnitude of local variations they are talking about in the earth’s magnetic field.
Re:Lockheed Martin Dark Ice: a quantum magnetometer geoposit... by oldbbsnickname on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @05:58PM (#38018919)
Make some assumptions, find the relevant equations, and plug in the numbers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field

Re:Lockheed Martin Dark Ice: a quantum magnetometer geoposit... by eternityforest on Thursday October 26, 2023 @01:38AM (#38022017)
IIRC I think there was a telephone system with giant magnetic coils that went a quarter mile, but maybe I read a blog wrong or something.

In any case it wouldn't be as portable and would make you rather easy to detect I would imagine, if you wanted to cover a large area.

Re:Lockheed Martin Dark Ice: a quantum magnetometer geoposit... by dendrite9 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @03:01PM (#38016850)
This looks like it might be in a similar vein to the navigation system discussed in a previous post about a new Royal navy test system. There are many good links in the comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36222625
Re:Lockheed Martin Dark Ice: a quantum magnetometer geoposit... by ncr100 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @03:27PM (#38017128)
They also have made a very large and high tech scraping knife, to remove any jam.

/Jk

Re:Lockheed Martin Dark Ice: a quantum magnetometer geoposit... by ozarker on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @06:07PM (#38018994)
Raspberry!
Re:Lockheed Martin Dark Ice: a quantum magnetometer geoposit... by ncr100 on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @11:31AM (#38086382)
Re:Lockheed Martin Dark Ice: a quantum magnetometer geoposit... by martinky24 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:59PM (#38016826)
Neat. Geopositioning in general is a "hard problem" especially with additional variables/complexities that are introduced for specific use cases (military or not). There's tons of room for cutting edge research here still, and it's exciting to see companies invest in that.
Re:Lockheed Martin Dark Ice: a quantum magnetometer geoposit... by mepian on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @04:39PM (#38018060)
(2019)
Re:Lockheed Martin Dark Ice: a quantum magnetometer geoposit... by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @09:02PM (#38020435)
Reading the article, it seems the real use case (unmentioned) is on ballistic missile nuclear subs.

You want them to be well below the surface of the water, where the GPS signal does not penetrate so well. Thus having a way for them to know precisely where they are without relying on GPS would be very helpful.

Re:Lockheed Martin Dark Ice: a quantum magnetometer geoposit... by steve_gh on Thursday October 26, 2023 @02:20AM (#38022319)
So now they can run Red Route One at high speed. All they need now is to "Engadge je shilent drife"