Waymo says insurance data shows its driverless cars are safer than humans

Re:Waymo says insurance data shows its driverless cars are s... by soco on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @05:28AM (#38010929)

So let me understand this: waiting stuck in traffic in your car (self-driving or not) is acceptable, but waiting stuck in traffic in a bus is not?

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Re:Waymo says insurance data shows its driverless cars are s... by hombre_fatal on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @05:37AM (#38010993)

Of course, because in your personal car you have your own A/C, music, comfort, privacy, and agency. A bus really needs its own lane instead of being stuck in traffic with all the other schmucks who refuse to take it, but few US cities have the balls to do it.

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Re:Waymo says insurance data shows its driverless cars are s... by dagw on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @05:32AM (#38010957)

In my car I have a comfy seat and can control whom I share the space with. On the bus I'm often standing and crammed in between dozens of other people. Also the really big problem isn't being stuck in traffic on the bus, but being stuck standing in the cold at the bus stop waiting for the bus that is stuck in traffic or cancelled.

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Re:Waymo says insurance data shows its driverless cars are s... by soco on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @09:01AM (#38012328)

The solution I see working (I live it) is separate bus lanes and regular commuter trains. Because I can work just fine (laptop and phone) sitting in that seat, what I cannot do in my car regardless of the noise/temperature/mates. But yes, I know people who drive to work because they enjoy driving. I instead enjoy my time gains (working while commuting is a significant time gain).

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Re:Waymo says insurance data shows its driverless cars are s... by dagw on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @10:15AM (#38013050)

Because I can work just fine (laptop and phone) sitting in that seat

I've been commuting to school or work by public transport since I was 16 and in 4 different European cities. Getting any seat is uncommon, let alone one where pulling out a laptop and getting work done was even an option. The only public transport option where I can conceivably see getting work done are the intercity trains, and then only if you get on at one of the very early stops before the train fills up.

Personally, 'can I get to the office by foot or bike' is one of the most important questions I ask myself when looking for a new job (or house). Commuting by car and public transport are both suboptimal.

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Re:Waymo says insurance data shows its driverless cars are s... by HPsquared on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @05:34AM (#38010974)

It's the difference between sitting on your couch at home, and sitting on a bench at the train station.

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Re:Waymo says insurance data shows its driverless cars are s... by bluGill on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @06:09AM (#38011186)

A bus is already slower than my car because of the need to stop to let others on. Plus a bus is much less likely to take a direct route to where I want to be thus requiring me to go someplace I don't want to go just to transfer to a different bus to get there. Finally when I drive i often am on faster roads that a bus wouldn't be on because there is nobody else to pick up (unless I transferred to an express bus)

Most people, throughout history have had a fixed time budget to get to work. They move if the trip takes more than half an hour. They will not take jobs (or will move) if it is farther away. We see this across civilizations, from hunter gathers following herds to modern people. There are exceptions but they are exceptions.

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