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Re:Waymo says insurance data shows its driverless cars are s... by thfuran on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:43AM (#38009916)
>so I’m not sure how types of vehicles is relevant for the comparison.

Surely "car with ABS and good tires" vs "car without ABS and with bald tires" makes a difference. And presumably waymo operates exclusively the former while some people drive the latter.

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Re:Waymo says insurance data shows its driverless cars are s... by tialaramex on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @04:01AM (#38010395)
Sure, but that's driver discretion, so it's a factor that we should be considering.
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Re:Waymo says insurance data shows its driverless cars are s... by thfuran on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @04:17AM (#38010500)
That depends on exactly what you're trying to measure.
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Re:Waymo says insurance data shows its driverless cars are s... by bluGill on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @06:22AM (#38011255)
Abs has been mandatory in the us since 2012, and was very common long before that (my base model truck from 1999 has it) we can consider cars without abs statistical noise by now.
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Re:Waymo says insurance data shows its driverless cars are s... by thfuran on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @07:53AM (#38011800)
>Abs has been mandatory in the us since 2012

The average US vehicle's age is more than 12 years.

>and was very common long before that (my base model truck from 1999 has it)

My non-base-model car from 1995 didn't.

>we can consider cars without abs statistical noise by now.

I'm not so sure that's true. But even if it is, that doesn't mean that there are no meaningful differences in safety between an exclusively new (or at least very recent) and maintained vehicle fleet and the general population.

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