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Re:CA DMV suspends Cruise deployment and driverless testing ... by jacquesm on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @02:24PM (#38003176)
Finally. Pity it isn't permanent. I'm really kind of done with beta testing software in control of cars in public spaces, and that includes Tesla and any other brand that doesn't assume full liability for the aftermath of any of their software issues. Until they can pass a series of government mandated tests (like we do with people) this software should be limited to test tracks and simulations.

And there should be 100% transparency regarding accidents where they are involved.

Re:CA DMV suspends Cruise deployment and driverless testing ... by londons_explore on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @02:31PM (#38003258)
I'm kinda of the reverse opinion...

Nobody should be able to sell any cars at all unless they can demonstrate decent headway in self-driving research.

Car manufacturers should be put on notice that the government expects 10% annual reduction in deaths on the roads every year for the next 20 years. If their car brand doesn't keep up with that, then they're gonna be fined $10M per excess death (for selling a dangerous product). They can achieve that any way they like, but a decently working self driving system is probably the only thing thats gonna let them continue to sell cars a decade from now.

Re:CA DMV suspends Cruise deployment and driverless testing ... by ballenf on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @02:35PM (#38003319)
Not sure why you're lumping Tesla in with Cruise. I'm all for investigating Tesla for advertising something as FSD that isn't FSD. Tesla basically has advanced driver assist functionality that is a few steps ahead of what most other luxury brands sell.

Are you saying Tesla should stop calling it FSD? Or that regulators should prohibit certain driver assist features without more strict regulatory approval?

If Tesla were putting actually driverless (or cars without pedals and wheels) on the road, I'd be with you.

Re:CA DMV suspends Cruise deployment and driverless testing ... by notJim on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @02:27PM (#38003219)
I would like to see legislation mandating greater transparency, but my impression is that these systems are already safer than human drivers.
Re:CA DMV suspends Cruise deployment and driverless testing ... by geepytee on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @02:28PM (#38003230)
Luddites in HN is crazy
Re:CA DMV suspends Cruise deployment and driverless testing ... by zachur on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @02:57PM (#38003614)
What makes you think the government would be qualified to issue tests? 40k+ human-caused automobile deaths per year would suggest they are pretty awful at judging human driving ability. Not to mention these companies have more rigorous internal safety tests than the government would ever be able to come up with.
Re:CA DMV suspends Cruise deployment and driverless testing ... by jacquesm on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @03:02PM (#38003672)
What makes you think random companies should be qualified to determine whether or not their product is good enough for the public space?

The FAA does a pretty good job for aircraft some errors notwithstanding, I don't see why there couldn't be a similar institution for road vehicles. Oh, wait: https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/home.aspx