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Re:TSA let a gun on flight: WA state senator arrested in Hon... by pavel_lishin on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @09:54AM (#37999220)
A gun has only one purpose: to kill. I'm disinclined to give people any kind of leeway when it comes to mistakes with firearms.

At least the damn thing didn't discharge mid-flight.

Re:TSA let a gun on flight: WA state senator arrested in Hon... by mensetmanusman on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @10:34AM (#37999710)
Killing is not always bad, murder is. (Common mistranslation of a commandment).
Re:TSA let a gun on flight: WA state senator arrested in Hon... by matt-attack on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @10:18AM (#37999488)
Wow really? One purpose?

Did you ever hear of target practice? Or marksmanship? You do know it’s an Olympic event right? Do you feel the same about archery? Or darts? Clearly whoever made darts so sharp and pointy was making a statement that they exist only to puncture skin, right?

Re:TSA let a gun on flight: WA state senator arrested in Hon... by pavel_lishin on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @10:27AM (#37999620)
I stand by what I said.
Re:TSA let a gun on flight: WA state senator arrested in Hon... by mikecoles on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @12:26PM (#38001470)
Glad to have you confirm you are indeed clueless about guns and their uses.
Re:TSA let a gun on flight: WA state senator arrested in Hon... by elmerfud on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @10:46AM (#37999897)
Discharge during flight... You have the classic movie understanding of firearms. Firearms do not accidentally discharge without them being played with.
Re:TSA let a gun on flight: WA state senator arrested in Hon... by pavel_lishin on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @10:51AM (#37999981)
You know what, you're right - I did the classic passive voice thing. I should have written "At he didn't accidentally discharge the damn thing mid-flight."
Re:TSA let a gun on flight: WA state senator arrested in Hon... by elmerfud on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @10:57AM (#38000089)
I agree with that sentiment because not knowing where your firearm is, is a very bad thing. Because if you don't know where your firearm is you cannot be confident of its status if it is loaded or not. That being said, I still don't think the actions of Hong Kong were proportionate in this regard. That's a total opinion people are free to disagree on but if the goal is to reduce problems then having a honest mistake that was reported as soon as possible receive a high punishment does not encourage people to rectify their mistakes as soon as possible. It actively encourages the opposite to conceal the mistakes or to dispose of it on the plane before he left. The concealing of the mistakes will always result in worst outcomes for everyone.
Re:TSA let a gun on flight: WA state senator arrested in Hon... by marcus0x62 on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @11:49AM (#38000858)
How, exactly, do you imagine that would happen?
Re:TSA let a gun on flight: WA state senator arrested in Hon... by elmerfud on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @12:47PM (#38001776)
He did admit to realizing he had the gun when he reached in to his bag mid flight. We don't know the state of the gun, was it loaded, was it secured in a holster with a covered trigger, etc... But how this could happen is, if the gun is loaded and it's loose without a covered trigger, and you don't realize it's there then reaching in to your bag and moving things about searching could very well trigger an accidental discharge.

I'm not saying there should be no accountability for his mistake, because not being aware of where your firearms are is very serious thing especially if you're choosing to carry one. I just don't think this action by HK is in proportion to the crime. It would have been better to seize and return it and let the TSA issue a fine.