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Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by lefstathiou on Sunday October 22, 2023 @12:50PM (#37976975)
Of course seeing something you haven’t seen is shocking. To make someone give up meat is a stretch. My kids have been up close and personal to butchers in wet markets chopping up fish, pigs and chickens in Taiwan. This is the daily way of life for billions of people. I believe people over estimate the reaction this would garner from most of the world’s population, which indicates to me that a similar reaction would happen here if we saw it regularly.
Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by ethanbond on Sunday October 22, 2023 @12:55PM (#37977003)
So the shock of a factory farm is just the shock of “seeing something new,” akin to going to Disneyland for the first time?

OP said “more people would be vegan” which I think is strictly true. Everyone? No. Would a lot of people reduce their meat consumption from the currently obscene 150+ animals per year (average American)? Probably.

Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by michaelgburton on Sunday October 22, 2023 @01:18PM (#37977224)
150+ animals per person per year? Citation needed.
Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by ironSkillet on Sunday October 22, 2023 @02:00PM (#37977598)
There's just no way it's true. A single cow can feed someone who eats beef often for an entire year.
Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by mcpackieh on Sunday October 22, 2023 @02:33PM (#37977876)
Count chickens it's a plausible number. If you count things like small fish and shrimp then it's probably a severe underestimate. I guess he isn't counting those, self-described vegans often don't for some reason.

I probably eat a thousand anchovies a year alone.

Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by ethanbond on Sunday October 22, 2023 @02:51PM (#37977999)
FWIW I'm actually not a vegan, or even a vegetarian. I eat and thoroughly enjoy meat.

But anyway yes, most of the specific individuals animals killed are chickens and water creatures of various types.

Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by ethanbond on Sunday October 22, 2023 @02:49PM (#37977975)
How long can a single shrimp or chicken feed someone?
Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by ethanbond on Sunday October 22, 2023 @02:50PM (#37977988)
https://countinganimals.com/how-many-animals-does-a-vegetari...

Here's a pretty good analysis based on USDA data. Prediction: "Seafood don't count! for handwavehandwave reasons!"

Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by dopidopHN on Sunday October 22, 2023 @03:23PM (#37978274)
Again; butchers are fine. The animal is dead already.

What you are missing is the industrial process we put together in the last 70 years to produce more meat; cheaper and faster.

Those are weird, and inhuman.

Those technics make most people uncomfortable. If not, the amount of antibiotics we have to pump into the animal to keep them healthy will hirk another slice of the public.

A data point here is the % of depression in slaughter house worker. Those are the one that are exposed for real.

Not a wet meat market worker, not a fancy butcher.