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Re:Plants communicate with each other when in danger by tremon on Saturday October 21, 2023 @07:56PM (#37971617)
On the other hand, cattle and poultry are the most successful organisms on this planet exactly because of farming. The selective pressure for tasty meat is no different than flowers developing rich smells and trees developing edible fruits.

There is a lot to be said against the inhuman assembly-line-like production of meat that has developed over the last century. But in my view, I shouldn't have to defend myself for being born an omnivore.

Re:Plants communicate with each other when in danger by wolverine876 on Saturday October 21, 2023 @08:28PM (#37971792)
Did someone say you have to defend yourself? You just inserted yourself in the conversation and, following the usual reactionary rhetoric, made yourself a victim.
Re:Plants communicate with each other when in danger by cj on Saturday October 21, 2023 @09:31PM (#37972084)
I don’t understand (some) people’s negative visceral reaction to vegan / plant diets.

My best guess is it’s the very small but very vocal minority who actively criticize meat eating.

The majority of vegans and vegetarians don’t really care whether other people eat meat. It’s a diet, not an ethical philosophy for a lot of people.

Re:Plants communicate with each other when in danger by wolverine876 on Saturday October 21, 2023 @11:55PM (#37972696)
You seriously don't see the pattern? Sorry to make you my outlet for this rant: It's the same reactionary (as in, anti-'liberal') response to everything; it's the same pattern, rhetoric, tone, etc etc. It's completely predictable; it's been going on for years. When will people stop playing this helpless role, to play it safe, to avoid confronting the obvious, overwhelming problem?

They don't give a crap about veganism; they just are following the reactionary playbook.

Re:Plants communicate with each other when in danger by zztop44 on Saturday October 21, 2023 @08:04PM (#37971643)
You don’t have to defend yourself for being born an omnivore. You just have to defend the ethical choices you make and the consequences of those choices.
Re:Plants communicate with each other when in danger by ta8645 on Saturday October 21, 2023 @11:01PM (#37972455)
Here's my ethical defense of eating meat.

Everyone and every thing dies, and in the larger scheme of things it matters not one bit. I'll make peace agreements with others where I see a benefit, and if I can trust that the other sees enough benefit to hold up his end of the bargain. Other than that, I see no reason to not participate fully in the full range of barbaric behavior the universe allows. Don't blame the player, blame the game. There is no referee who watches over to pass judgement either way.

Re:Plants communicate with each other when in danger by zztop44 on Saturday October 21, 2023 @11:36PM (#37972614)
“I will do barbaric things so long as there are no adverse consequences to me personally” is not really an ethical defence of eating meat.
Re:Plants communicate with each other when in danger by ta8645 on Saturday October 21, 2023 @11:41PM (#37972639)
Yes it is. It's just not ethics you agree with. But that's the great thing with ethics, everyone gets to pick their own. There's no right or wrong, just opinions.