That's a fair point. Eggs from chickens and milk from cows seem like the corresponding thing for the animal realm.
Doesn't really seem like that'd be a common thing, though I could believe it does happen occasionally (law of large numbers and all).
Both of those animals are raped, have their children separated from them, and are ultimately killed early in their life when their economic commodification is concluded, so no, the level of violence and negative side effects is not anywhere close to comparable.
Oh, you mean like "beans, corn and wheat" as in the comment I was replying to?
That seems to be what happens for them too. ;)
No idea why you're saying the same things happening to them "aren't anywhere close to comparable".
Hem... not. Farmers don't have sex with chicken or cows normally. Can we behave as adults here?
We don't need to kill individual plants, because we can wait and kill its babies. Philosophical consistence at its best.
Each bean, corn and wheat grains are individual plants. Eating a dish of beans or a slice of bread is the very own definition of killing 200 plants each time. And this is the only part of this species that we eat.
Silly influencers tried to eat only fruits. The poor misguided souls died of malnutrition. It does not work. Seriously. Facts are stubborn.
We're talking about humans, right? Which are anatomically closest to frugivorous apes. Curious which "facts" you must be considering.
Facts: Fruit only diet is unsuitable for the survival of human children.
nine month old girl died in 2000. The baby was severely malnourished after being feed a diet of water and tomato juice. Their parent rejected repeatedly any medical advice, thinking that just providing more sun would be enough.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/sep/15/taniabranigan
So this diet can kill you literally in a few months
More food for your mind. Fruitarian diet can kill young adults also
Aug 2023. The food influencer Zhanna Samsonova starved herself to death at 39 Yo after subsisting exclusively on a diet of fruits, sunflower seed sprouts, fruit smoothies and juices for years
If fruitarian diet is so healthy as you think, then this people shouldn't have died. Period.
Have you any logical, adult, alternative explanation about how a 9 months old girl can die by the consequences of severe starving after being feed such nutritious diet (and not any trace of poisonous meat or evil processed foods)? I would want to hear it.
And if the doctor's claims that fruitarian diets damage the pancreas are false, then maybe Steve Jobs shouldn't had developed pancreatic cancer. Or his pancreas should have improved after the all-juice "cure", right?
Jobs pancreas didn't healed. The disease didn't ever stopped. In fact, his choice most probably accelerated the disease. If doctor's experience are of any value to you, then we should pay attention when they universally say that fruitarian diets damage pancreas and kidneys at long term.
Most doctors say also that fruitarian diet can lead to diabetes.
Can we conclude yet that maybe fruitarian diet is not so healthy for us as some people preached, or people must learnt it the hard way?
> Most doctors say also that fruitarian diet can lead to diabetes.
No, they don't. You seem to have an ideological bias against fruit. Until you address it, a lot won't make sense to you.
it's really impressive reading arguments of this level on a place like this... and even worse: justifications at the ballpark of "i can't commit to veganism, its too boring/difficult"
edit: boring is to work on a livestock place killing hundreds of animals per day and dealing with the smell of blood, screams of animals not killed at the first air-shot & the high paying salary that probably allows plenty of exotic seasoning and vegetables to be cooked after work; if you aren't going to suicide, because rates of this type on those workers are pretty high