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Re:It's easy to screw up on breaking news. But you have to a... by hintymad on Friday October 20, 2023 @01:09PM (#37958744)
I really hope that we learn that narratives will sooner or later turn against us if we sacrifice truth for narratives. NYT and WaPo and what not may enjoy their "progressive" narratives now, but the party will not go on forever. Truth matters.
Re:It's easy to screw up on breaking news. But you have to a... by bryanlarsen on Friday October 20, 2023 @01:54PM (#37959349)
The NYT article persuasively shows the evidence that the PIJ fired the rocket. That's not the far-left narrative.
Re:It's easy to screw up on breaking news. But you have to a... by jahewson on Friday October 20, 2023 @02:06PM (#37959489)
The evidence is laid out, but the narrative alongside it is “gosh with dozens of pieces of evidence supporting one version of events and zero supporting the other, it’s a close call, we’ll never know what happened!”.

That’s not to say that we should jump to conclusions but the initial assumption that Hamas’ claim was truthful is ridiculous. NYT would not publish any claim Trump makes with so little scrutiny.

It’s really a tragedy that both sides of the media spectrum have now been captured by politics.

Re:It's easy to screw up on breaking news. But you have to a... by hintymad on Friday October 20, 2023 @03:58PM (#37960802)
The initial version of NYT article parroted Hamas' statement that "Israel Strike Kills Hundreds in Hospital", and also used a stock photo that had nothing to do with the hospital.

If this is not narrative, I don't what is.

And I quote the word "progressive" because I don't think that's real progressive. Progressives care about truths, and don't jump to conclusions that fit their belief.

Re:It's easy to screw up on breaking news. But you have to a... by bryanlarsen on Friday October 20, 2023 @04:04PM (#37960873)
But not the version that the OP linked.

> If this is not narrative, I don't what is.

A mistake. Note that basically all the wire services made the same mistake. Reputable services corrected the mistake. Disreputable ones didn't. That's what the original article is about.

> And I quote the word "progressive"

And I changed the word to "far-left" for much the same reason. It's not terribly accurate either, but shrug.