Ketamine's effect on depression may hinge on hope

Re:Ketamine's effect on depression may hinge on hope by louison11 on Friday October 20, 2023 @02:01AM (#37952794)

For sure. In indigenous circles, the perception is often that science’s approach to psychedelics is quite ill-fitted because it seeks to separate the molecules from the non-physical essence of the medicines. What is called “set and setting” in the secular world, is called “sorcery” or “ceremony” for them. They understand the many transcendental layers opened by this medicine in a profound, intimate manner, and many of these traditions have developed, refined and passed down over generations intricate spiritual sciences meant to work with these unseen forces with the most grace possible.

So, naturally when westerns come and want to isolate compounds and get rid of the ceremonial background because it’s “unscientific”, the only possible reaction is to put one’s hand in the face and think “here we go again, THIS too will be colonized.”

This world has far many more dimensions than what modern science is able to address. And many of these plants/compounds open access to these dimensions. It’s really important I think that we have the humility to learn from the people who have worked with these medicines for a very long time.

Context: I have apprenticed and studied very closely under various traditional lineages for the past few years.

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Re:Ketamine's effect on depression may hinge on hope by e9 on Friday October 20, 2023 @02:19AM (#37952892)

Where can we find more information or learn from you?

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Re:Ketamine's effect on depression may hinge on hope by louison11 on Friday October 20, 2023 @08:10AM (#37955037)

I feel flattered, thank you. I’m not sure what specific type of information you wish to learn. Most of what I have learned is passed down in person through the ceremonies. Usually people find these things when they are ready for them. It presents itself when the social circle becomes aligned. For me, the entrance was by getting closer to holistic circles (meditation, sound healing…) in the SF Bay Area. There are also more commercial offerings that can be found on platform like retreat.guru - but I’d always exercise more caution when working with people who advertise themselves. Always look for sincerity.

Otherwise, I write about the relationship between technology and spirituality here: https://louison.substack.com/

You may also get more information about traditional indigenous ceremonies/sorcery reading Carlos Castaneda, Ruiz or looking for other books in that category.

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