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Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by malfist on Thursday October 19, 2023 @12:32PM (#37945059)
Did you upgrade your cell phone plan so you could have 1080p video on YouTube?

That's an example of non-neutral net

Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by pyuser583 on Thursday October 19, 2023 @12:36PM (#37945106)
No, I did not. My cell data plan has never preferred one bit over the other.
Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by lotsofpulp on Thursday October 19, 2023 @12:42PM (#37945191)
If you are in the US, there is always a ranking of bits on a mobile network. Perhaps not by your plan specifically, but by the network operator.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoContract/comments/tn4733/qci_leve...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QoS_Class_Identifier

Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by malfist on Thursday October 19, 2023 @12:37PM (#37945126)
Lucky you, you must not be on Verizon, AT&T or TMobile
Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by mmanfrin on Thursday October 19, 2023 @12:45PM (#37945228)
Every major plan I've seen has traffic shaping or throttling for streaming, even Google Fi itself for Youtube, their own property.
Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by Longlius on Thursday October 19, 2023 @12:49PM (#37945274)
That's because Google doesn't own the Google Fi infrastructure. They use T-Mobile's.
Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by criddell on Thursday October 19, 2023 @12:49PM (#37945275)
I'm on TMobile in part because I got a free Netflix and MLB.tv. Is that an example?
Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by l33t7332273 on Thursday October 19, 2023 @12:53PM (#37945323)
I don’t think bundling other paid services counts. It’s only if the ISP treats the traffic to/from those paid services differently that you run afoul of net neutrality.
Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by plussed_reader on Thursday October 19, 2023 @01:05PM (#37945495)
The term you're dancing around is zero-rating, and it is viewed unfavorably.

https://dig.watch/topics/network-neutrality#:~:text=Zero%2Dr....

Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by snarfy on Thursday October 19, 2023 @01:05PM (#37945497)
But they do. Typically the bundled video services like Netflix or Apple don't count against your bandwidth usage.
Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by criddell on Thursday October 19, 2023 @01:11PM (#37945585)
TMobile gives me free Netflix, but I use it on my television which uses my home internet. So even if they zero-rated that service, in my case it's irrelevant.

Plus I think I have an unlimited* plan, so zero-rating something doesn't have much impact.

Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by ericmay on Thursday October 19, 2023 @12:52PM (#37945314)
Yea that's probably an example - those companies get preferential treatment on the network w.r.t traffic and so competitors have a harder time entering the market.
Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by criddell on Thursday October 19, 2023 @02:36PM (#37946740)
But if they simply give you a free subscription without any kind traffic shenanigans, it's not a net neutrality issue?
Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by ericmay on Thursday October 19, 2023 @02:48PM (#37946921)
Probably not unless there is something I'm not considering
Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by zamalek on Thursday October 19, 2023 @03:51PM (#37947809)
> without any kind traffic shenanigans, it's not a net neutrality issue?

Yep.

But they do rate-limit people: https://www.t-mobile.com/support/plans-features/activate-hd-...

If you're on the top plan then you haven't experienced it. The irony is that T-Mobile was one of the ISPs throwing support behind net-neutrality, and now they are one of the most aggressive net discriminators.

Re:FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2... by talent_deprived on Thursday October 19, 2023 @12:55PM (#37945361)
Did you ever want to fly first class versus coach?