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Re:Even the FBI says you need to patch this Atlassian Conflu... by RomanPushkin on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @01:14PM (#37931664)
We once had a meeting with our ex-CTO. The question was how do you envision the technical future of Atlassian. The most popular tag was "fire", referring to the "Five-alarm fire" program they introduced to fight a series or emerging outages. This program was over at the time when we had this poll. Seems like everyone in the org saw that in 2021. Later it was confirmed multiple times, with one of the services down for almost a week for some clients, and TBH with other outages. And in 2021 the CTO just ignored the most popular "fire" answer saying something "while we're getting votes coming in, let's talk about..."

They replaced CTO, but it didn't help. At this point I'm pretty confident it's about founders who cannot keep it under control. So you know, this org is 70-80% KTLO.

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Re:Even the FBI says you need to patch this Atlassian Conflu... by talent_deprived on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @01:28PM (#37931889)
IDK, I've used Jira and Confluence at almost every place I've worked the past 20 years, love those tools.
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Re:Even the FBI says you need to patch this Atlassian Conflu... by RomanPushkin on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @02:10PM (#37932470)
There is pretty substantial number of folks who hate Jira, TBH. But you're the reason is their stock is still flat, and the entire company worth something.
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Re:Even the FBI says you need to patch this Atlassian Conflu... by ninju on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @04:36PM (#37934443)
> reason is their stock is still flat

It's up 20% in the last 6 months https://www.google.com/finance/quote/TEAM:NASDAQ?sa=X&ved=2a...

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Re:Even the FBI says you need to patch this Atlassian Conflu... by RomanPushkin on Friday October 20, 2023 @12:27PM (#37958225)
Even if it's flat you can find a time frame when it's up. The reality is it's not the best stock by any means, and it will never will be. Why? Because it's Atlassian. No-innovation, KTLO-kind-of-company.
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Re:Even the FBI says you need to patch this Atlassian Conflu... by sofixa on Thursday October 19, 2023 @03:57AM (#37939842)
They probably don't hate Jira, but specific implementations of it, which can easily turn to shit with bad management because the tool is flexible enough to allow it.
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Re:Even the FBI says you need to patch this Atlassian Conflu... by mschuster91 on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @02:37PM (#37932811)
> At this point I'm pretty confident it's about founders who cannot keep it under control.

They seem to be purely on the growth-by-acquisition trend, hell almost all of their products are acquisitions that have been more-or-less shoddily "integrated"... just a week ago they bought Loom for a billion $ - money that would have been better invested in bringing their code and service quality up to speed.

Atlassian is enshittification-as-a-service, just that this time it isn't the general population being squeezed but large corporations.

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