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Re:Swedish union declares strike for Tesla employees by brtkdotse on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @10:54AM (#37916091)
> Saab died

Under GM management.

Re:Swedish union declares strike for Tesla employees by nordsieck on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @11:00AM (#37916197)
> Under GM management.

There's a reason they ended up as a GM brand.

Re:Swedish union declares strike for Tesla employees by foooorsyth on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @10:59AM (#37916179)
Saab was facing insolvency when GM bought 50% of the company. Would you have preferred the brand to die sooner?
Re:Swedish union declares strike for Tesla employees by brtkdotse on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @11:04AM (#37916268)
Frankly? Yes. The drawn out death rattle was annoying to follow.

But if you list the causes of SAABs demise you get pretty far down the list before coming to "2 months vacation and 36 hour workdays" (it's 25 days and 39 hour work weeks btw).

Re:Swedish union declares strike for Tesla employees by DennisP on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @11:18AM (#37916494)
So what were the causes? I was a Saab fan so I'm curious.
Re:Swedish union declares strike for Tesla employees by dagw on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @11:36AM (#37916789)
SAAB was never really a car company. It was an aerospace company that ended up owning a car manufacturer due to some mergers and ran its car division more like an eccentric hobby. The car part was never really well run or financially self-sufficient and that just became more obvious when the car part was eventually split off from the aerospace part.
Re:Swedish union declares strike for Tesla employees by dagw on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @05:19PM (#37921729)
edit: Just correcting my history slightly. SAAB actually started their eccentric car hobby before merging with a car manufacturer, partially due to to the end of WW2 leaving them with a surplus of engineers and capacity and wanting to put them to some use. The rest of my point basically stands
Re:Swedish union declares strike for Tesla employees by brtkdotse on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @11:32AM (#37916735)
I'm sure someone has a good writeup, but as to my understanding they had a really weird lineup where the 9-5 competed with 9-3 and both were basically low-end luxury sedans marketed as family cars.
Re:Swedish union declares strike for Tesla employees by malfist on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @11:54AM (#37917046)
> The drawn out death rattle was annoying to follow

You're saying that a company that employees thousands of people should have died earlier and cost those folks their jobs because....it annoyed you personally?

Re:Swedish union declares strike for Tesla employees by brtkdotse on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @12:20PM (#37917490)
You’re right. That was a poor choice of words on my part. My point was that it was obvious SAAB cars (neé SAAB Weapon Systems) wasn’t a viable business and the last few years were extremely drawn out and full of drama.
Re:Swedish union declares strike for Tesla employees by DrThunder on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @11:56AM (#37917063)
Why did GM have to buy them out?

More socialist countries are inherently bad a creating and maintaining profitable businesses.

Re:Swedish union declares strike for Tesla employees by dagw on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @07:24AM (#37927191)
So selling off a failing company on the open market to the highest bidder is socialist. But governments bailing out a failing car manufacturer to the tune of billions of tax payer dollars is free market capitalism? Got it.
Re:Swedish union declares strike for Tesla employees by DrThunder on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @10:53AM (#38000013)
They sold it off because they were bad at making money and keeping it running.

Your second sentence it a strawman. Of course it's not capitalism to bail out manufacturers. How's that working out for the US? All you've proven is that when the US implements socialist policies it's detrimental. So, thanks for proving my point.