Re:Science is bringing historic Apple varieties back to life
by tpmx on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @04:00PM
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Because HN applies various adjustments to submitted post titles - without notifying the poster. A more honest approach would be to have a two-phase submission process, where the submittee is allowed to fix any mistakes made by the algo.
Re:Science is bringing historic Apple varieties back to life
by CharlesW on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @05:20PM
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I'm a human, and that's how it worked. I was unsatisfied with a poor automatic change, clicked "Edit" because I'm stubborn that way, saw that it worked, and then shared the solution so that other contributors could do the same.
Re:Science is bringing historic Apple varieties back to life
by graypegg on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @03:03PM
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I know you're just joking, but I would love if Apple actually did something like that as a small run thing. I'd even accept some horrible DRM and lock down. Let me sync like 1000 songs or something onto it from Apple Music. It's stupid but I would buy that purely because it'd make me smile using it.
Re:Science is bringing historic Apple varieties back to life
by o0banky0o on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @12:21PM
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Never heard of the bloody ploughman, but its neat.
from wiki: "The story is that a gamekeeper shot dead a ploughman caught stealing apples from the Megginch Estate. When his body was returned to his wife, she found stolen apples in his pockets and threw them onto a rubbish heap. One of the resulting seedlings bore apples of a deep, blood red. This tree gave rise to the cultivar that was named after the unfortunate ploughman."
Re:Science is bringing historic Apple varieties back to life
by tuatoru on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @05:44PM
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When I was a child, my mother would get cases of Cox's Orange Pippin freighted over from an orchard region. I think late summer/fall. Far and away the best dessert (eating) apple I've tasted, and the texture was great too.
But they were susceptible to sunburn and leaf marks, they bruised easily (needed careful handling) and the skin wrinkled quickly in retail temperatures and atmospheres. When supermarkets took off, varieties like that died. It's going to be hard to bring any of them back in any meaningful sense.
Re:Science is bringing historic Apple varieties back to life
by mtnGoat on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @12:09AM
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I guess I just don’t see the excitement here. Drop a seed in the ground get a new variety. Not sure the purpose of trying to preserve every apple varietal, if they were good, they’d of been grafted and promoted. All modern apple orchards are clones/grafts these days.
Thanks to that I was expecting something about Appel retro Computers.
P.S. I submitted it on a Win 11 machine running Firefox.
"Apple growers in Switzerland fighting Apple Inc. in court"
https://www.newser.com/story/336785/swiss-apple-growers-not-...
My apologies for any offense.
Here are some UX basics in case you really want understand the topic:
https://www.nngroup.com/articles/ux-basics-study-guide/
Through ever-bigger displays, Victorian England studied its apples.
https://applesandpeople.org.uk/stories/hereford/
Apples originated in Kazakhstan, there are supposed to be forests of Apple trees there, although I think they're now in fairly poor health.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-last-wild-apple-fore...
https://www.carolinacountry.com/departments/departments/feat...
https://applesearch.org/
But they were susceptible to sunburn and leaf marks, they bruised easily (needed careful handling) and the skin wrinkled quickly in retail temperatures and atmospheres. When supermarkets took off, varieties like that died. It's going to be hard to bring any of them back in any meaningful sense.