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Re:Iowa Man Files Lawsuit After Being Arrested Twice for Cri... by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @05:41AM (#37912574)
The problem is that you don’t know what noise complaints are dangerous or not.

> but ideally you'd have someone qualified responding to noise complaints who could request police backup when needed.

I don’t think you are going to get any takers for that job. “You only are going to get shot at 1% of the time, if you survive you can call for police backup.”

Re:Iowa Man Files Lawsuit After Being Arrested Twice for Cri... by vasco on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @11:03AM (#37916261)
> I don’t think you are going to get any takers for that job. “You only are going to get shot at 1% of the time, if you survive you can call for police backup.”

Thanks for elaborating the point, this is exactly what I was trying to get at with the "you go do it then". How are you going to convince people to join the police knowing they'll be going into places where people will be armed but you yourself are not armed and somehow need to enforce the law and project some level of authority if the situation is hairy.

Re:Iowa Man Files Lawsuit After Being Arrested Twice for Cri... by autoexec on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @01:05PM (#37918141)
> I don’t think you are going to get any takers for that job. “You only are going to get shot at 1% of the time, if you survive you can call for police backup.”

If that were true, unarmed security guards wouldn't exist yet we have no problems finding people willing to do that job.

Re:Iowa Man Files Lawsuit After Being Arrested Twice for Cri... by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @01:23PM (#37918397)
Unarmed security guards aren't approaching random houses with unknown situations for noise complaints.
Re:Iowa Man Files Lawsuit After Being Arrested Twice for Cri... by autoexec on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @04:11PM (#37920872)
They're often in places more dangerous including patrolling neighborhoods (the kinds neighborhoods that need extra paid security) full of 'random houses' and they investigate suspicious noises every one of which is an unknown situation. I'd rather tell people having parties to turn down their music than confront people breaking into places and committing crimes with nothing but a flashlight and a radio.
Re:Iowa Man Files Lawsuit After Being Arrested Twice for Cri... by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @05:14PM (#37921673)
As long as they aren't opening doors, its not the same thing. Security guards are making the rounds in places they know well, they aren't engaging with dangerous situations (e.g. physically confronting a shoplifter at QFC or Fred Myer is a huge no no).

> I'd rather tell people having parties to turn down their music than confront people breaking into places and committing crimes with nothing but a flashlight and a radio.

You only think that a few times before you realize the first situation will sometimes lead to a lot more trouble than the first.