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Re:Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chroni... by genewitch on Monday October 16, 2023 @06:18PM (#37907444)
This sounds great, except it's been proven the glyphosate is not the ingredient that kills the most weeds, the "inert" ingredients when applied alone are vastly more effective.

I always think it's funny when glyphosate apologists come out in droves to defend their favorite poison manufacturer. Maybe they actually drank the stuff when Bayer/Monsanto said it was safe to drink?

Re:Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chroni... by bumby on Monday October 16, 2023 @06:27PM (#37907526)
Where can I read more about the effectiveness of the inert interments and their dosage?
Re:Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chroni... by genewitch on Thursday October 19, 2023 @11:33AM (#37944319)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221475001...

This always takes me a lot longer to find than i hope, since "roundup inert ingredient toxicity" has, you know, hundreds or thousands of DOI attached to it.

as i've heard said - "Inert doesn't mean inactive in this context"

Re:Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chroni... by bumby on Thursday October 19, 2023 @01:42PM (#37945992)
This is very interesting, thank you for taking the time to find it
Re:Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chroni... by osjrnngoxifr982 on Monday October 16, 2023 @08:08PM (#37908411)
Re:Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chroni... by jtbayly on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @07:45AM (#37913478)
No way. Show me the proof. If it’s the inert ingredients, why don’t they kill the GMO corn and beans, too?
Re:Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chroni... by genewitch on Thursday October 19, 2023 @11:34AM (#37944327)
Re:Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chroni... by jtbayly on Friday October 20, 2023 @01:45PM (#37959214)
Thanks!

That's crazy.

However, I'm still left wondering how Roundup-resistant crops work. It's not the effects of Glyphosate they are resistant to, but rather the effects of the "inert" ingredients?

Edit: Also... it turns out that glyphosate is safe?! Conspiracy theory: they found a safe chemical, glyphosate, named it the "active" ingredient, and focused all the research around that ingredient, knowing that it would be found safe. Then they were free make pesticides from unsafe chemicals, swap new ones in, etc.

Re:Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chroni... by genewitch on Saturday October 21, 2023 @05:31PM (#37970629)
re: your edit, yeah, i've often wondered if bayer/monsanto just let that chemical "tank" in the role-playing / MOBA sense, all of the negative publicity, so down the road when they are forced to show data/science - or, they release a new chemical - they can point at glyphosate and say "see, it wasn't even that bad!".

If you look at the literature, say for "roundup inert ingredient toxicity", lots of papers explain that each manufacturer (or different use pesticides from the same manufacturer) will contain different ratios or mixtures of inactive ingredients, and there's a lot of what i consider damning evidence against the surfactants.