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Re:LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineer... by JumpCrisscross on Monday October 16, 2023 @03:23PM (#37904928)
> Collective bargaining is pretty much the only tool workers have

No, it isn’t. There is the individual threat of quitting. And there are the courts.

Re:LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineer... by vunderba on Monday October 16, 2023 @03:58PM (#37905574)
Ridiculously naive take. And both of these on an individual level are so diluted as to basically be meaningless.

1. An individual quitting at a company where they are one single cog doesn't impact the company in any measurable way.

2. The court system in the west gives an asymmetric level of power toward the corporation, an individual has neither the time, the money, or the ability to navigate an ongoing protracted lawsuit with a corp that dwarfs them in all three aspects.

Re:LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineer... by JumpCrisscross on Monday October 16, 2023 @04:01PM (#37905649)
> both of these on an individual level are so diluted as to basically be meaningless

I've personally used both to extract concessions from employers.

In any case, my general point is that we need more protections in law for workers. Unions are a good way to distract from that.

Re:LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineer... by JohnFen on Monday October 16, 2023 @04:30PM (#37906104)
Neither of those are effective for the vast majority of workers.