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Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by winternett on Monday October 16, 2023 @02:53PM (#37904402)
Agreed. Spotify is a terrible alternative for the musicians.

Myspace and Mp3.Com used to be the road map to how sites should be run, but venture capitalism and publicly traded companies ruined the entire ecosystem.

Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by reactordev on Monday October 16, 2023 @03:44PM (#37905325)
I had high hopes for SoundCloud but in the end, VC’s always win.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by dzhiurgis on Monday October 16, 2023 @04:42PM (#37906299)
They still pretty much same. I don't get any audio ads, some ads in my stream, but never seem to be playing. Premium offering is stuck somewhere in 2009 when offline playback was a thing. Lack of integrations with Homepod & Tesla is somewhat becoming a problem. Still no way to filter your stream or get know what bitrate you are streaming.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by whizzter on Monday October 16, 2023 @06:06PM (#37907329)
(I studied with one of the founders)

Soundclouds problem was always that they started out as basically a free service for a particular niche(artist to label contacts), starting to charge(pissing off people who expected free forever) and then moving out of the niche made it so they never really had a footing for something people would pay for.

The problem with so many "internet unicorns" from the 2000-2010 era is that they handwaved per-customer costs as hardware/network costs and assumed that as long as they scaled then salaries would be a minor part, we as an industry are now trying to dig ourselves out of that hole with a even shittier AD experiences just as that AD market is crashing down.

Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by waveBidder on Monday October 16, 2023 @08:38PM (#37908701)
free money for VC via low interest rates was a terrible strategy for creating innovation that would last.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by justatdotin on Monday October 16, 2023 @09:18PM (#37909085)
yes, I was very hopeful for sc: such a waste.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by nomel on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:23PM (#37908048)
> Spotify is a terrible alternative for the musicians.

I'm not a musician. I'm a listener trying to find music that I like to listen to. Do you have a recommendation for us on the other end of the speaker wire?

Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by waveBidder on Monday October 16, 2023 @08:37PM (#37908685)
there's this neat website/app called bandcamp, you may have heard of it somewhere. it asks you to occasionally buy albums, rather than pay a fixed fee.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by nomel on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @01:36AM (#37911006)
> trying to find music that I like to listen to

As mentioned, my problem, as a listener, is discovery, which bandcamp doesn't address.

Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by mattkevan on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @08:28AM (#37913920)
As a listener, Bandcamp is my favourite place for discovery bar none. Find a genre or label and start exploring the catalogue. Find other users with similar tastes and explore their lists. Follow artists, labels and users to see their activity stream.

It's not as passive as just hitting play on a playlist, but I've discovered so many incredible artists and labels this way. I'd be genuinely devastated if Bandcamp goes away.

Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by nomel on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @10:05PM (#37924081)
This is, effectively, what the recommendation systems do. They suggest songs/artists that users with similar tastes liked, and songs with similar styles (there's deep analysis/categorization of the sound of the song).

I prefer an automated process, rather than clicking about, navigating lists. It's ok that this is my preference.

Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by thirdsun on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @08:39AM (#37914013)
NTS Radio, Rate Your Music or Discogs should be great, deep rabbit holes that lead to new and interesting discoveries.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by reactordev on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @12:51PM (#37917925)
I’m afraid if bandcamp doesn’t address discovery and SoundCloud doesn’t either then you’re referring to the “shuffle-radio” where you discover new music without doing anything? This is how Brooks Jefferson got to 60m listens in the first place. “Sounds like Garth Brooks!” Because it’s his songs sang by a wedding singer.
Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by nomel on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @10:03PM (#37924062)
> then you’re referring to the “shuffle-radio”

No, recommendation systems, like Spotify uses, uses crowdsourcing and song analysis to drive the "radio". You can make "song radio" that has the same style/feeling as a song, artist, or genre.

Re:"About half of Bandcamp was laid off today" by winternett on Monday October 16, 2023 @10:55PM (#37909983)
Junodownload is where I buy music most. They have a wide variety of options and fair pricing. It's much easier to find and browse music there. Our link: https://www.junodownload.com/labels/Ruff+And+Tuff+Recordings...