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Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by hemloc_io on Monday October 16, 2023 @11:12AM (#37900921)
Really more of an e/acc manifesto.

Interesting to see a twitter thing slowly leak into the mainstream one step at a time.

Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by sph on Monday October 16, 2023 @11:14AM (#37900961)
WTF is e/acc for people that don't live on Twitter?
Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by lambda_garden on Monday October 16, 2023 @11:36AM (#37901325)
Effective Altruism is a charity / social club / networking opportunity for young STEM types based on pretty extreme beliefs about Utilitarianism and recently AI. The most famous EA right now is probably SBF.

Accelerationism is the belief that we should race towards catastrophe so that we can rebuild society in a better way.

E / Acc is a (sometimes ironic) amalgam of the two.

You won't be surprised to learn that not many in these groups have studied history.

Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by eternityforest on Monday October 16, 2023 @03:44PM (#37905320)
Utilitarianism has very real utility monsters, and some people seem like they want to make AI into another one...
Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by tern on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:39PM (#37908164)
The original accelerationist manifesto was written by people who did study history. You can find it here: https://criticallegalthinking.com/2013/05/14/accelerate-mani...

#accelerate was a meme (which, mainly referred to a set of aesthetics) on Google circles around 2011

Since then, the meme evolved into a bit of a war between l/acc (the original sense of the term) and r/acc (Nick Land flavored).

e/acc is a play on this—but a decade removed, the original context has been mostly forgotten

To understand the original historical context, you can read this book: https://www.amazon.com/Accelerate-Accelerationist-Reader-Urb..., which traces it back to, among other things, an essay by Marx

Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by notpachet on Monday October 16, 2023 @09:41PM (#37909306)
I wonder what Marx would think of Andreessen Horowitz...
Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by hemloc_io on Monday October 16, 2023 @11:19AM (#37901047)
It's a twitter thing, that was picked up by the more twitter brained VCs.

Mostly an AI thing originally I think? (I'm addicted to the site, but don't follow the d list celeb drama lol.)

Stands for effective accelerationism, more or less what you read in this Manifesto (Marc Andresson said he identified it a while ago too so makes sense.)

Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by bleachedsleet on Monday October 16, 2023 @11:25AM (#37901155)
Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by batty_alex on Monday October 16, 2023 @11:17AM (#37901012)
It stands for Effective Acceleration, I think
Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by numpad0 on Monday October 16, 2023 @06:19PM (#37907461)
First Google result was a small air conditioning reseller, the second was []1. I'm going with the former.

1: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cultures/eacc-effective-accel...

Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by greenie_beans on Monday October 16, 2023 @01:23PM (#37903133)
it's ironic, because wouldn't marx be considered the OG accelerationist?
Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by hotnfresh on Monday October 16, 2023 @04:46PM (#37906349)
Lenin, more like. Marx reckoned it’d all happen more-or-less naturally, others decided it needed a push.

[edit] ok, nuance, yes he advocated movements to replace capitalism with communism, but he’s not the one mainly associated with attempts to bring communism “too early” (too early by Marx’s reckoning of the timeline of capitalism, that is)

Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by marcosdumay on Monday October 16, 2023 @06:16PM (#37907428)
One of the OG ones, maybe. It was a quite widespread idea.
Re:The Techno-Optimist Manifesto by rileyphone on Monday October 16, 2023 @07:56PM (#37908313)
The philosophy goes back to him by Deleuze and Guattari via Nick Land, though most lump Marx's thought with the sins of the 20th century.