Automakers invented the crime of jaywalking (2015)

Re:Automakers invented the crime of jaywalking (2015) by jcynix on Friday October 13, 2023 @03:36AM (#37867857)

While I too agree with norms in general, there is such a thing as common sense.

And common sense might tell you that waiting at a lone traffic light in the outskirts of a town in the early morning, sun rising, no car in sight for some hundred meters in each direction, does not add value to society?

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Re:Automakers invented the crime of jaywalking (2015) by 3seashells on Friday October 13, 2023 @04:18AM (#37868154)

It adds reliability, unconscious adherence to rules, a reduction of friction. I don't want people to jdrive in pedestrian only zones, just because nobody is up and about. Chaos is a mental taxation, ditracting from endavour.

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Re:Automakers invented the crime of jaywalking (2015) by geysersam on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:42AM (#37869936)

I'd say waiting for the traffic light to turn green when there is no traffic nearby adds friction rather than reduces it.

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Re:Automakers invented the crime of jaywalking (2015) by Gud on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:39PM (#37873297)

There is no chaos to jaywalking because jaywalking should be the default. Only in non-pedestrian cities is jaywalking taxing.

I come from a city where people jaywalk(Stockholm). Jaywalking makes the city extremely walkable, and quite frankly I suspect it was designed with jaywalking in mind. It is obvious when someone is not from Stockholm - they wait for the signal.

I don't get the ease of jaywalking in many other large cities I've been - Zürich comes close. In the UK, even crossing at a green light feels dangerous.

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