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Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by chungy on Thursday October 12, 2023 @06:35PM (#37864028)
This site makes some weird choices.

Calendar: "This GUI doesn't have this feature" -- yes it does. Double click the clock.

Clock: The old clock application is still part of Windows 95, but it's also in the corner.

Address book: Depends on the version of Windows 95. Ones that came with IE3 or IE4 have an address book.

CD player: maybe the floppy version lacked it? But Windows 95 definitely has a CD player.

Browser: CD versions of Windows 95 came with Internet Explorer; depending on the version of 95, it could be IE2, IE3, or IE4.

Desktop themes: Part of the Plus add-on. Most versions don't include it (some did, especially OEMs). Could probably count the Appearance tab of the display properties too.

Logout screen: Windows 95 has it, but you'll have to connect it to a Netware or NT domain to show it.

Good start, but those are the glaring omissions I spotted.

Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by Umofomia on Thursday October 12, 2023 @07:49PM (#37864667)
It looks like some of the omissions you mentioned are instead included on a separate page for the OEM Service Release 2 version of Windows 95: https://guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/win95osr2
Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by AshamedCaptain on Thursday October 12, 2023 @08:13PM (#37864830)
Double clicking opens the date & time preferences (which already has a screenshot), not a calendar program. 9x did not ship with a clock or calendar program unless you upgraded from 3.x. The article mentions the clock in the taskbar explicitly. And unlike 98, 95 doesn't have a separate logout screen; it is always just another entry in the regular shutdown screen.

The only glaring omission I see is the CD player, but I'd hardly call it glaring considering it is a non-default component, and many countries did not even get a CD version of 95 in the first place (or only OEM).

Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by chungy on Thursday October 12, 2023 @09:40PM (#37865521)
I don't even think the CD Player is an optional component, my Windows 95 VM doesn't have it in the Add/Remove Programs dialog. It's just there.
Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by crazygringo on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:12AM (#37866951)
It was in an upgraded version of Windows 95. Not the original:

> CD Player was included in Windows 98, Windows NT 3.51, Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 2000 (as Deluxe CD Player). The program was also made available as part of an upgrade for Windows 95.

https://microsoft.fandom.com/wiki/CD_Player

Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by chungy on Friday October 13, 2023 @06:44AM (#37869086)
That wiki is wrong. (First off, NT 3.51 came out four months before 95, it'd make no sense as an argument that the CD player was too new for 95, yet included in NT 3.51)

The Windows 95 release-to-manufacture disc, files dated 1995-07-11, the /WIN95/WIN95_14.CAB file:

    $ cabextract -s -l -F cdp\* win95_14.cab
    Viewing cabinet: win95_14.cab
     File size | Date       Time     | Name
    -----------+---------------------+-------------
           643 | 11.07.1995 09:50:00 | cdplayer.cnt
         88064 | 11.07.1995 09:50:00 | cdplayer.exe
         20579 | 11.07.1995 09:50:00 | cdplayer.hlp
    
    All done, no errors.
Windows 95 shipped with the CD Player from its very first release. It wasn't added in as an update. Day 1.
Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by AshamedCaptain on Friday October 13, 2023 @02:32PM (#37873894)
https://web.archive.org/web/20051214182952/http://support.mi...

Please also note that I _never_ saw 95 as a CD in retail. I actually took a trip to the US when it was released to search for it, since I got confirmation from my local MS that it was not in EU. Several people do ensure me that there was a retail CD version, but I have never seen it in person myself. I have seen plenty of OEM discs, though.

Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by chungy on Friday October 13, 2023 @03:34PM (#37874601)
In the US, the floppy version was very uncommon. I didn't even know it existed for a few years, until I encountered someone that had it.
Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by crazygringo on Wednesday October 18, 2023 @10:18AM (#37929061)
Ah ha. Mystery solved, thank you!

Turns out everybody's half-right. :)

Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by AshamedCaptain on Friday October 13, 2023 @02:34PM (#37873908)
It's right there in Multimedia section.

The minimal install of 95 is ridiculously small. Please remember that 3.x practically fits in 10MiB of disk space.

Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by butlike on Friday October 13, 2023 @04:13PM (#37875074)
Can I ask how you installed 95 on a VM. I've been trying for a few days but the installer errors out because of `VGA.DRV`. Dunno if it's a problem with my particular iso, but I'm using VM Ware Fusion
Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by g232089 on Thursday October 12, 2023 @08:36PM (#37865027)
>Calendar: "This GUI doesn't have this feature" -- yes it does. Double click the clock.

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20050621-04/?p=35...

Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by chungy on Thursday October 12, 2023 @09:40PM (#37865516)
Well I checked my Windows 95 VM, even opening a command prompt and typing "date"; changing the date view in that panel does change the date instantly. I never knew this was the behavior.

He describes changing the behavior in Windows 95 being "reluctant"; I would say it was the proper and expected design from the onset. Windows 95 does not have instant-change settings anywhere else, it's always safeguarded behind OK and Apply buttons. Changing the date immediately on changing the view is inconsistent with the rest of the operating system's GUI design.

Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by crazygringo on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:08AM (#37866936)
Yup, absolutely. I'd go so far as to say that in a window with clearly labeled OK/Cancel/Apply buttons, the instant change is a straight-up bug.
Re:Screenshots from Windows 95 by qingcharles on Thursday October 12, 2023 @10:35PM (#37865884)
95 definitely had a CD Player.

Before 95 came out I was selling the beta versions on CD like crazy. Blank CDs were like $20/ea back then.

But I started an online project to create a database of all the world's CDs by having everyone email me their cdplayer.ini file which contained all the track listings they had typed in.

This project lasted but a few weeks before I realized why it no longer worked properly. dot ini files are limited to 64K on Windows 95 lol