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Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations by funcDropShadow on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:00PM (#37861513)
No, democracies have to have limits what they tolerate. Killing civilians just because they have a certain religion is incompatible with western values. The limit should be too not be tolerant with people that are not willing to provide the same tolerance. By that standard celebrating the killing of civilians we shouldn't tolerate.
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Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations by BasedAnon on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:38PM (#37862086)
>Killing civilians just because they have a certain religion is incompatible with western values

Yes, israel (a literal ethnostate & theocracy) should stop killing civilians due to their religion.

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Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations by seryoiupfurds on Thursday October 12, 2023 @04:15PM (#37862620)
> BasedAnon

> goyim

4chan /pol/ wants their neonazi talking points back.

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Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations by BasedAnon on Thursday October 12, 2023 @04:40PM (#37862892)
Deriding them as 'neo-nazi' talking points doesn't change the fact that they form the theological basis for israel (which again, is an actual real life ethnostate) & general jewish sentiment towards non-jews.
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Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations by jabradoodle on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:09PM (#37861655)
That isn't what they banned, they banned pro Palestine demonstrations.

Not a mention of Hamas.

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Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations by medvezhenok on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:21PM (#37861832)
The problems were not the demonstrations, it was the barrage of death threats against Jews (inside France). Which were linked and exacerbated because of the demonstrations.

The demonstrations themselves are acceptable - but the linked death threats definitely aren't, and unfortunately the state apparatus is not set up to deal adequately with the latter.

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Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations by stvltvs on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:48PM (#37862237)
Can you expand on how the death threats were linked to the protests?

I tend to think focusing on the threats themselves would be the better approach. Having trouble seeing how shutting down protest would help.

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Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations by nickthegreek on Thursday October 12, 2023 @05:30PM (#37863403)
2 days ago in Australia the pro-palenstinian protestors were chanting gas the Jews.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/10/pro-palest...

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Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations by medvezhenok on Thursday October 12, 2023 @05:30PM (#37863406)
Look at January 6th. Many people came to "peacefully protest" the election and got swept up in doing something they didn't expect to do.

I don't know if you can conclusively prove they were directly linked, but we've seen how online people get radicalized by finding a community that espouses abhorrent ideas and then go on to commit crimes in service of that community. Real life gatherings and protests can have the same radicalizing effect in certain cases. That's not to say all of them do - the ideology behind the protest matters.

I agree that focusing on death threats would be a better approach - the problem is that it's very hard to find perpetrators and very easy to commit. Deterrence doesn't scale in that case.

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Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations by BudaDude on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:08PM (#37861645)
Palestine != Hamas
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