Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
by hfuyf65 on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:58PM
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This censorship is in a capital of a western power. We can condemn Hamas AND condemn failing democratic society by not upholding basic freedoms that built it.
Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
by medvezhenok on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:25PM
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The censorship is likely an uncomfortable trade-off. In an ideal world, we would allow speech and carefully police when that speech turns into death threats or violent action.
However, state capabilities and surveillance capabilities are not sufficient in the west for the second part of that. So the devil's compromise is to restrict the former (because people who would be motivated to issue death threats or commit violent actions are frequently encouraged by the former actions of free speech).
Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
by enterprise_cog on Thursday October 12, 2023 @04:08PM
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Can’t go there, the IAF is leveling all the buildings (and women and children).
Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
by Gibbon1 on Thursday October 12, 2023 @04:11PM
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Hamas could put their hands up and walk out too.
Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
by enterprise_cog on Thursday October 12, 2023 @04:14PM
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Israel could stop bombing civilians too.
Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
by Gibbon1 on Thursday October 12, 2023 @05:30PM
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We could ask what Hamas would do if the power imbalance was the other way.
We both know that you know the answer to that.
Right now no one that's anyone cares about what Israel is going to do to Hamas. Hamas is now like ISIS, the shining path, the red brigades, the Khmer Rouge. Their non existence is a priority.
Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
by enterprise_cog on Thursday October 12, 2023 @06:26PM
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Who cares what hypothetical situation you can make up to try and justify these atrocities. The reality is that Israel is intentionally bombing innocent civilians, hospitals, cutting power, and depriving people of water. All of this in the open air prison that is Gaza, one of the most densely packed areas in the world.
It’s disgusting and needs to be stopped.
Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
by Gibbon1 on Thursday October 12, 2023 @10:52PM
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You're the one justifying Hamas killing 1300 people in cold blood. You're the one saying that's justified.
Re:France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
by enterprise_cog on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:14PM
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Nah, I’m saying I don’t want innocent Palestinians killed. I didn’t even mention hamas.
Obviously you have no intention of discussing this in good faith, so I’ll just leave you be to keep justifying the killing of children.
We'll wait here.