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Re:OpenAI is too cheap to beat by ilaksh on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:44PM (#37861237)
I think the weird thing about this is that it's completely true right now but in X months it may be totally outdated advice.

For example, efforts like OpenMOE https://github.com/XueFuzhao/OpenMoE or similar will probably eventually lead to very competitive performance and cost-effectiveness for open source models. At least in terms of competing with GPT-3.5 for many applications.

Also see https://laion.ai/

I also believe that within say 1-3 years there will be a different type of training approach that does not require such large datasets or manual human feedback.

Re:OpenAI is too cheap to beat by nico on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:59PM (#37861501)
> I also believe that within say 1-3 years there will be a different type of training approach that does not require such large datasets or manual human feedback

This makes a lot of sense. A small model that “knows” enough English and a couple of programming languages should be enough for it to replace something like copilot, or use plug-ins or do RAG on a substantially larger dataset

The issue right now is that to get a model that can do those things, the current algorithms still need massive amounts of data, way more than what the final user needs

Re:OpenAI is too cheap to beat by Dwedit on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:28PM (#37861925)
Abbreviate Mix of Experts as "MoE" and the Anime fans immediately start rushing in...
Re:OpenAI is too cheap to beat by sidnb13 on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:48PM (#37861321)
> I also believe that within say 1-3 years there will be a different type of training approach that does not require such large datasets or manual human feedback.

I guess if we ignore pretraining, don't sample-efficient fine-tuning on carefully curated instruction datasets sort of achieve this? LIMA and OpenOrca show some really promising results to date.

Re:OpenAI is too cheap to beat by sharemywin on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:55PM (#37862336)
distilbert was trained from Bert. there might be an angle using another model to train the model especially if your trying to get something to run locally.