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Re:YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 ... by jordanmorgan10 on Thursday October 12, 2023 @01:19PM (#37860068)
I’m subscribed to them for the same reason I was subscribed to DirecTV for a decade - they have a monopoly on Sunday Ticket.

Oh, how I yearn for Sunday Ticket to just be its own entity so I didn’t have to buy another service.

Re:YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 ... by halfmatthalfcat on Thursday October 12, 2023 @01:31PM (#37860219)
I know not exactly what you're looking for but I bought RedZone for the first time through the NFL+ app this year and it's so nice to just have that and not fuss with any other service.
Re:YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 ... by bdcravens on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:29PM (#37861011)
Sunday Ticket is different than RedZone. RedZone is a single channel that jumps between games; Sunday Ticket gives you unfettered access to all games.
Re:YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 ... by lotsofpulp on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:55PM (#37861434)
Even Sunday Ticket does not give you access to all the games.

https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/

>NFL Sunday Ticket: Every out-of-market Sunday game[1]

>[1] Locally broadcast Fox and CBS games, Sunday Night Football on NBC, select digital-only games and international games excluded

Re:YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 ... by bdcravens on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:47PM (#37862209)
Sure, but it does give you the lion's share, whereas Red Zone is really just one show, six hours on Sundays (and occasionally Saturday)
Re:YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 ... by halfmatthalfcat on Saturday October 14, 2023 @09:25AM (#37880299)
Right, which is why I said “not exactly what you’re looking for”. Was just highlighting that RedZone is purchasable *independently* through an app with little to no fuss.
Re:YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 ... by jpollock on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:04PM (#37860682)
You can subscribe to Sunday Ticket without signing up for YouTube TV.

See "NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube" or "NFL Sunday Ticket + NFL RedZone on YouTube"

Re:YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 ... by andrewgioia on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:26PM (#37860976)
While technically true this is hardly an option... Both of those "alternative" plans exclude YouTube TV while charging considerably more. How many users who enjoy paying more for less did they sell to here?

$350/year for Sunday Ticket with YouTube TV included vs. $450/year for just Sunday Ticket, delivered via regular YouTube it seems.

Their pricing page: https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/#id-plan-matrix

Image if you can't access it: https://i.imgur.com/0nsQZxA.png

Re:YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 ... by dpifke on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:40PM (#37862114)
$350/year for Sunday Ticket with YouTube TV included vs. $450/year for just Sunday Ticket, delivered via regular YouTube it seems.

YouTube TV is required—not included—with the $350/year plan.

So it's $350/year + $73/month, or $450/year.

Assuming you only keep YouTube TV for the September-January football season, that's $715/season with YouTube TV, vs. $450/season without. If you don't get any value from YouTube TV (e.g. if you already have cable or satellite), it's cheaper without.

(Sunday Ticket doesn't show nationally broadcast games such as Monday Night Football, so you kinda need access to broadcast TV alongside it.)

Re:YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 ... by poulsbohemian on Thursday October 12, 2023 @04:39PM (#37862880)
I agree with your math, but the whole thing is offensive and abusive no matter how you cut it. $450/year (minimum) just to get football games. We've been evaluating our different options overall, given that Netflix price-to-value continues to weaken, as does Sling and Hulu, but I can't find any reason apart from NFL games why I would subscribe to YouTubeTv.
Re:YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 ... by dpifke on Thursday October 12, 2023 @05:23PM (#37863334)
If you don't care what games you watch, an HD antenna isn't a bad deal.

Unfortunately, where we're located (South Dakota), there isn't a "local" team, so it's pretty random which games are broadcast by our local affiliates. If we want to follow a team and watch games we care about, it's either go out to a sports bar, or get Sunday Ticket at home. (And as discussed above, the latter is actually cheaper than the former.)

With other streaming services, we mostly stick to a "one at a time" policy. We'll subscribe to e.g. HBO Max for a month, catch up on the latest season of a show, and then cancel as soon as we're done.

I watch at most a couple of hours of TV a week, but my partner likes having "junk TV" on in the background while she's doing other stuff, so we do get some value from YouTube TV for cooking shows, shows like Deadliest Catch, etc. I wouldn't want to go back to paying $150/month for cable for that, but it's not without any value.

Compared to travel or my expensive tool habit, TV and football is actually a pretty small portion of our overall entertainment budget.

Re:YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 ... by spike021 on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:00PM (#37861515)
As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, if mlb tv could release a subscription without blackouts I would no longer need YouTube tv. Same kind of problem.
Re:YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 ... by halfmatthalfcat on Saturday October 14, 2023 @09:27AM (#37880316)
I have a separate Wi-Fi network in my house that routes through a VPN in a city I’m not located in that I point my AppleTV too whenever I want to watch local MLB games. Works like a charm. Just remember to turn off location services for the MLB app in AppleTV.