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Re:Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from... by ryandrake on Thursday October 12, 2023 @11:06AM (#37858249)
> I’ve had tinnitus for about one year now. There is no permanent relief or treatment. Lots of snake oil.

Half of the 200+ post comment section reads like those bottom of the barrel YouTube ads with the AI generated voices: "Try this secret trick to cure your [condition]." It seems to always happen when someone comes here to ask for opinions on disease, food, health or fitness. People, don't go to HN for medical or nutrition advice.

So far, we've already seen: Magic audio tracks, shocking the tongue, steroids, and Ambien, and those are only the top few root subthreads.

Re:Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from... by vorpalhex on Thursday October 12, 2023 @11:13AM (#37858340)
Tinnitus may have a psychological component. Many people, in this thread, talk about reducing or removing alcohol and having improvement. Alcohol does very weird things to sleep and the stress cycle.

One of the things that occasionally freaks people out is that magical talismans, regardless the magic.. actually work - at above placebo! In fact, even fake magical talismans.. work.. at above placebo..

Psychological things are very real and can be measured but can be influenced in funny ways. Something may genuinely fix or help the issue and not actually treat the direct symptom.

Re:Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from... by bigDinosaur on Thursday October 12, 2023 @11:37AM (#37858699)
The fake magical talisman is the placebo, so it cannot be superior to the placebo. At least I'm not sure of any useful study to demonstrate anything about real talismans if you're not using the fake one as a placebo.
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from... by vonjuice on Thursday October 12, 2023 @01:04PM (#37859898)
We don't know the workings of tinnitus, so tinnitus itself is in the realm of "magic", so there is likely not going to be objective solutions.

However, people still have to live with it, and it causes stress. What are you going to do, nothing, just because there's no treatment that lives up to the standards of hackernews readers?

The statement that there is no permanent relief or treatment is false, and it's delivered with the same confidence as some of the snake oil advice.