Re:California Right to Repair Signed into Law
by segmondy on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @12:53PM
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You have to start somewhere. I rather the right to repair cover 90% of things than 0% of things. We can eventually fight for right to repair the rest.
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Re:California Right to Repair Signed into Law
by TheGlav on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @01:05PM
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We did start somewhere. We started with "we are allowed to do with our own property whatever we want." this law codified removal of those rights.
Re:California Right to Repair Signed into Law
by justapassenger on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @01:18PM
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Did you read the article or the law?
This law requires manufacturers to provide parts, tools and documentation for how to repair their products. It didn't change anything about rights of people to do whatever they want with their property.
Re:California Right to Repair Signed into Law
by bbor on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @01:31PM
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This is not at all accurate. From the bill introduction:
The bill would require... the manufacturer of an above-described electronic or appliance product... to make available, on fair and reasonable terms, to product owners, service and repair facilities, and service dealers, the means, as described, to effect the diagnosis, maintenance, or repair of the product, as provided.
The bill would also require a service and repair facility or service dealer that is not an authorized repair provider, as defined, of a manufacturer to provide a written notice of that fact to any customer seeking repair...
The bill would also authorize a city, a county, a city and county, or the state to bring an action in superior court to impose civil penalties on a person or entity for violating the Right to Repair Act, as provided.
The bill would make these requirements and enforcement provisions operative on July 1, 2024.
Would love to be proven wrong though, could easily be missing something hidden in there. Both pages seem to be purely about requiring things of people though, not allowing things.
Re:California Right to Repair Signed into Law
by TheGlav on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @06:01PM
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The law explicitly excludes some items:
> Exemptions: game consoles, alarm systems, agricultural and forestry equipment
(This is from the linked article.)
Re:California Right to Repair Signed into Law
by lallysingh on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @01:06PM
(#37847160)
Please explain
Re:California Right to Repair Signed into Law
by freedomben on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @12:57PM
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Agreed. As much as I hate that John Deere escaped this one, we can regroup now and will have a getter position of bargaining since it's only "expanding" an existing law rather than creating a new one from scratch.
Re:California Right to Repair Signed into Law
by robertlagrant on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @01:20PM
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We can regroup? The people who write these laws have all the power already. They just have to write things down and if you don't do the things they get some of your company's money or occasionally can lock you in a box.
Re:California Right to Repair Signed into Law
by freedomben on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @01:24PM
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By "we" I mean those of us who have no direct power, but work to convince those with power to pass the laws. The legislature isn't going to do it without that