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Re:Oil sector is lobbying for inefficient hydrogen cars to d... by tw04 on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @05:09PM (#37837532)
No? I'm not sure why you jumped to attack me when I was simply providing a counter-point to your claim that it's all "oil and gas". I drive an EV, I'm quite happy with it.

As to the article: they fail to mention that Japan hasn't even begun to throw in the towel. The newest CEO of Toyota is doubling down on hydrogen powered vehicles.

https://www.autonews.com/mobility-report/toyotas-bold-us-pla...

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Re:Oil sector is lobbying for inefficient hydrogen cars to d... by ZeroGravitas on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @05:24PM (#37837747)
Japan has little traditional fossil fuels, but they were making a lot of noise about exploiting the methane hydrate in their seas:

> Methane hydrate is confirmed to exist abundantly in the sea near Japan and is expected to become one of the domestic energy resources of the future

https://www.japex.co.jp/en/technology/research/mh/

So in this case, they're really just a subset of the "oil and gass industry" boosting hydrogen vehicles.

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Re:Oil sector is lobbying for inefficient hydrogen cars to d... by fomine3 on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @08:20PM (#37839490)
It has been just a dream for a long time.
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Re:Oil sector is lobbying for inefficient hydrogen cars to d... by appleiigs on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @05:15PM (#37837615)
Also, it's not a complete failure according to the article he mentions "The 20-page report doesn’t argue for hydrogen’s complete removal from the energy mix. In fact, REI argues that hydrogen is vital for industries where decarbonization is particularly tricky (think: aviation, shipping, and steelmaking). However, to use hydrogen in place of electrification via other renewable sources is a mistake, REI says."
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