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Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by linuxftw on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @02:01PM (#37835339)
There's a multitude or purposes. Improved power being one, improved reliability being another. Modern diesel emissions equipment fails regularly, often in hard to diagnose and repair ways.

If you spent $100k on a truck, and you could spend $2k more to 'delete' some emissions equipment to prevent $10k+ worth of repairs in the future, would you do it?

Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by WirelessGigabit on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @02:12PM (#37835471)
It's not on you to decide that I get to breathe in carcinogens.
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by Osiris on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @02:37PM (#37835758)
As a motorcycle rider, these people that dump black smoke when they accelerate are just pumping poison straight into my lungs. I hate it so much because there’s nothing I can do about it.

At least cars have cabin air filters. I get to suck it straight in unfiltered.

Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by numtel on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @02:48PM (#37835911)
As a car driver without a cabin air filter, (are cabin air filters even effective against exhaust gases?) both diesel trucks and motorcycles require me to close my windows and vents because of the smell.

At least cars have smog equipment to reduce the emissions. Motorcycles mostly don't.

Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by dharmab on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:39PM (#37837172)
Most motorcycles made from 2017 onward have factory emissions equipment with cleanliness similar to cars (due to the Euro5 regulations from that year forward). Since most bikes have one configuration globally, even US models implemented Euro5.
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by devit on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:31PM (#37837075)
You could wear an FFP2 or FFP3 mask with a valve.
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Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by doubled112 on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @02:07PM (#37835403)
It isn't just 100K trucks.

I drive a 2013 VW diesel, and this year the warranty covered an EGR and a DPF, which is exactly the kind of thing deletes remove from the vehicle.

That's about $6K in work on a vehicle I paid $14K for a couple of years ago.

Next time, when it is out of warranty, should I take the car to the junk yard? Or delete them and never have another issue? Which is really better for the planet?

Before anybody asks, no I do NOT want to roll coal. It's stupid and obnoxious. You can put a proper tune on a car and not have that issue. Soot is unburnt fuel, which means wasted fuel. You turned it up too high.

Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by linuxftw on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @02:41PM (#37835805)
You're lucky it was under warranty (I'm assuming it's an extended warranty). Most manufacturers are only covering those items for 36 months.

Imagine if the warranty was a federal minimum 300k miles/20 years. I bet they would design the components so the labor time is zero to replace them.

Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by doubled112 on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @06:48PM (#37838757)
Extended warranty.

When Dieselgate was happening, my understanding is that you were offered a couple of options.

One was to sell back the car. The other was to keep the car, do the fix, and accept an extra 10(?) years of fairly comprehensive warranty. It transferred ownership, which made them fairly attractive as a used car, which is why I have one.

Has saved me literal thousands at this point, but after owning it a couple of years, I understand why everybody was happy to sell them back. They're junk, and the dealership experience leaves something to be desired too.

Some of these warranty claims have had me running back and forth to the dealership. My record is 7 trips before they got it right.

Another dealership left it spraying fuel all over the engine bay. That was a good time.

Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by strbean on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @02:06PM (#37835393)
Seems likely they are talking about semi trucks, not pickups.
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by linuxftw on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @02:47PM (#37835896)
Well, a 3500 diesel is all of $100k today (if you're getting 4 door, dually). I personally wouldn't spend that kind of cash unless I needed such a thing (like, to pay my bills with, not pull an RV or something). And if I was paying my bills with it, I'd make sure I keep it one the road, one way or the other.