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Re:Valve Says Counter-Strike 2 for macOS Not Happening, Ther... by latexr on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @11:41AM (#37833559)
> but Linux (gaming) usershare is growing

Because the games are there. In large part because Valve is making it happen.

> Apple's indifferent (if not hostile) attitude towards gaming

They’ve been touting the abilities of Apple Silicon for gaming on their events. Their platforms support modern gaming controllers with zero setup. They had Hideo Kojima (and others) at WWDC. There are two separate sections on the App Stores just for games. They developed multiple technologies specifically for games: https://developer.apple.com/games/

We can argue if Apple’s gaming strategy is any good, but calling them indifferent or hostile to games does not align with reality.

Re:Valve Says Counter-Strike 2 for macOS Not Happening, Ther... by Goronmon on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @11:56AM (#37833817)
At the end of the day, there is a path to switch from Windows to Linux for gaming (both playing and development) without requiring an investment in hardware. Switching to Apple for gaming effectively requires investing in new (at least to the user) hardware.

That's a pretty huge difference, and things like the yearly fees (even if they aren't expensive in practice) only make the switch less attractive.

Re:Valve Says Counter-Strike 2 for macOS Not Happening, Ther... by latexr on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @12:26PM (#37834221)
No one wants to have to switch platforms to do one specific thing, we’d all prefer for the things we want to be available in the platforms we want to use. If you like Windows, you’re not going to switch to Linux for gaming. What the growing number of Linux games allows is for Linux people to not have to switch to something else. In the same way, the people who want to play games on macOS are the same ones who already use the platform.
Re:Valve Says Counter-Strike 2 for macOS Not Happening, Ther... by JAlexoid on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @03:02PM (#37836068)
* on their mobile devices

But having proprietary APIs on Macs isn't going to get other desktop games to Apple, when Macs aren't nearly as numerous as people would like to believe.

Re:Valve Says Counter-Strike 2 for macOS Not Happening, Ther... by latexr on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @03:32PM (#37836432)
> on their mobile devices

No, everything I mentioned is applicable to the Mac.

> But having proprietary APIs on Macs isn't going to get other desktop games to Apple

Neither was that the argument. The explicit point was that Apple is not indifferent or hostile to games, not that their gaming strategy is good.

Re:Valve Says Counter-Strike 2 for macOS Not Happening, Ther... by JAlexoid on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @11:59AM (#37846176)
You're right, that they're not completely indifferent.

Their strategy is "my way or highway", which is what I would consider "hostile" on desktops.