Are you sure it's the same people? That said, even if it is, there's something to be said for intentionally sharing a constrained set of code vs using something that spies on you in real life.

Could be different sets of people actually!

However. It will eventually, chunk by chunk, upload the full source code of the app you are writing. Complete with all typos and mis-pastes. Like youtube blocks videos with just a hint of copyrighted music, they may be able to detect use of "patented" algos or something like that and block you/ send a lawyer/etc.

> upload the full source code of the app you are writing

The full code that’s already uploaded via “git push”?

... via git push to a trusted origin, which is not github.

I suppose it happens, but I suspect the set of people who distrust github/MS enough to not use them for git hosting but still use copilot is quite small.

Inded, some folks are so worried about their code being sucked up by an AI bot they forget they ship every single revision and byte to MS via github. If MS wanted to be devious with the data entrusted to them they could have done it already.

Intellectual property scanning using AI would be a service that they could charge for... For both sides.

Indeed. Our company looked at the IP issues and issued a very strong "do not put any company IP in an AI" edict.

Have you double-checked the terms of service? Are you absolutely certain that there's no risk of your copilot use impairing your intellectual property rights in the future?

Given what happened to Unity, how comfortable are you with becoming dependent on copilot and then having the rules change underneath you?

Todays HN is as interesting as it was back in 2011. But it is not privacy minded like it once was (was it ever?) at all.

> How came that usually privacy-minded hn crowd

HN has never been a privacy-minded crowd. It's been a collection of random people, and depending on the threads of topic, you'll get more people speaking out than others. See the Dropbox post from 2007. Nary a privacy concern. HN isn't a single voice.

Why do you think it's a privacy-minded crowd? Because you probably react and respond to similar posts, and you see people with a like-mind there.

> How came that usually privacy-minded hn crowd uses run-by-someone-else models so cheerfully and carelessly?

Let's answer this question: they probably aren't doing it carelessly. Consider that Copilot is run by Microsoft, who owns GitHub and your code already. So, they already have the code. I'm not sending them something they don't already have.

Anyways, when I see something I didn't expect to see on HN, my initial thought isn't how it's wrong, but rather, what am I missing? And rather than post an antagonistic question, I instead try to research more to get a better understanding of what I'm missing.

My own code is on my own gitea instance in my home, exposed via a cheap jump server. My companys code is stored on-premise. Nothing touches github and no, ms does not already have my code.

I'd say your set-up is probably more rare than people whose own code and whose company code are both stored on Github.

HN's privacy-minded crowd and HN's AI-obsessed crowd don't have much crossover, I don't think.

I bet there is an age gap; the former are older than the latter.