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Re:The NYC's MTA 20 Year Needs Assessment Reminds Us They Ca... by rayiner on Monday October 09, 2023 @07:58PM (#37826973)
Garcia is white—her maiden name is McIver. So the black candidate got the majority of black support, the white candidate got the majority of whites, the Asian won the majority of Asians. Adams expressly campaigned on starkly racial terms: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/20/nyregion/adams-yang-race-..., https://nypost.com/2021/06/20/adams-rips-garcia-yang-for-all....

I might find Adams’ criticisms of white progressives amusing, but it’s not a recipe for building a city focused on getting the trains to run on time.

> It also seems to fit oddly with the fact that progressives of all races voted against Adams.

Progressives make up a small percentage of the electorate. The fact that racial conflict plays a major and destructive role in city politics doesn’t mean there aren’t also other issues in play.

I don’t know what makes you think I’m “trolling.” Show me a city that, like NYC, has an established history of ethnic partisanship in politics but also has an effective government?

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Re:The NYC's MTA 20 Year Needs Assessment Reminds Us They Ca... by tptacek on Monday October 09, 2023 @08:33PM (#37827210)
As you well know, when you're wading into volatile arguments here --- and the racial dynamics of elections are obviously that, for multiple reasons! --- the onus is on you, the commenter, to prevent spontaneous conflagration by writing carefully and hedging away the most noxious interpretations of what you're writing. You share responsibility for how your writing is interpreted. You've long since given up on that, which is why you're finding so much of what you write so unwelcome here.
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Re:The NYC's MTA 20 Year Needs Assessment Reminds Us They Ca... by rayiner on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @01:25AM (#37828783)
OP isn’t overreading my point, he’s disagreeing on the merits. Correcting the misconception about Garcia’s race, I don’t see how anyone could disagree that NYC has quite bitter racial politics, and that’s long been true.

The crux of our disagreement seems to boil down to him wanting to avoid the implication that New York’s racial politics is a bad thing for the city’s governance, and me not caring about doing so. That’s fine, we don’t need to defensively write around each other’s pieties.

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Re:The NYC's MTA 20 Year Needs Assessment Reminds Us They Ca... by selimthegrim on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @09:30AM (#37831851)
This is like when Ted Cruz goes around and corrects voters about the genuineness of Beto’s nickname despite being worse at Spanish.
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