Right, we shouldn't lie to ourselves here.

The corporate-controlled image generation models will block sexually suggestive images and gore.

They'll also block images of Xi Jinping and Mickey Mouse.

It'll still be good enough for a lot of applications; that guy photoshopping together an ad for Mountain Dew doesn't need images of Xi Jinping anyway.

But these aren't really the successful models that further creativity. On the contrary, we see a buzzing community that create thousands of models and they specifically chose base models that are not lobotomized because they simply provide better results.

So you might not want to stifle that with corporate control.

> I'm not crazy about "SV moral arbiters" either, but I don't like posts like yours because they pretend a reality that doesn't exist.

I`m not OP, but I don't like posts like yours because they pretend that current status (not even status, your idea about current status) will never-ever change.

> I`m not OP, but I don't like posts like yours because they pretend that current status (not even status, your idea about current status) will never-ever change.

I'm all ears listening to suggestions for how to realistically change the current status, I just haven't heard any reasonable ones that are actually tenable. Also, why I think there are plenty of annoyances with the current status, I rarely think they are as catastrophic as their detractors make them out to be.

I mean to address your questions we have to answer more complex questions of what society and culture is.

At least in my thinking, which may be incorrect, is that you cannot have a society that allows everything. Because allowing oneself to be destroyed is in the set of everything.

I'm not sure how your idealism doesn't fall foul of the paradox of tolerance?

Ah you mean that time before reddit was entirely hivemind?

The most valuable information on the Internet will always come from the chans.

You just need to be able to evaluate everything with critical thinking.

You know, that thing where you can reason about something without necessarily agreeing with it.

Please don't interpret this as bait. From my perspective a vast majority of people have embraced outsourcing their reason.

Things like fph exist exactly because people are told day in and day out that diabetes is healthy. Its perhaps the most ugly manifestation of the natural reaction to this polar opposite called body positivity. But banishing thought doesn't eradicate it. It simply validates all those driven away.

Sadly that is something vitally absent from borg based Internet.

> Things like fph exist exactly because people are told day in and day out that diabetes is healthy.

I don't believe this deserves any serious consideration.

Some anonymous Swedish guy said that a virus was coming early next year in September 2019 and pleaded with people to not take the vaccine that would come in late 2020.

I don't know what point you're trying to make. The baseline rate for schizophrenia means I should expect about 24 million people saying equivalent things about each year.

That's as stupid as me assuming you were schizophrenic and ignoring your argument.

You have still completely failed to communicate whatever point you were trying to make. I have absolutely no idea what idea you were attempting to convey.

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If you think that shows value, that just shows you don't know value.

Oooh a one liner fallacy. You are le bad ass intellectual.

Well what was the value? The prediction was wildly wrong, supposed to come from "a pharmaceutical company working with military op's in a west coast state." That's about as far from China as you can get.

And the conspiracy theory that the vaccines are the real toxic part is just dumb. We know from hospitalisation and ICU figures that people were getting sick well before a vaccine was delivered. Plus, it requires me to believe that everyone in NHS Scotland was lying to me for completely unknown reasons.

In order to believe in these theories I am required to shut off my brain and not think about what happened in other countries, other health services, even though there are plenty with full information in English. It's just daft.

do you have an archived link?

wow that's wild man. definitely expected this to not get delivered

They did have a choice though. They could have built a federated system in which they as the developers have no ability to censor.

If each subreddit could be hosted by its moderators, you can't apply pressure to the developers because they have no control over it. You can apply pressure to the moderators hosting that subreddit, but they don't care more about ad revenue than keeping their subreddit up because if it's not up there's no ad revenue.

I heavily doubt they would have deplatformed and I don't think there ever was a pandemic of CSAM on reddit. This is a mischaracterization usually the argument to enact greater control.

Could be that reddit did indeed have no choice here, there was a media campaign against more open platforms.

The situation is indeed tenable if platforms just do not cooperate with external pressure of content moderation. There are such platforms and they still operate today.