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Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by mijoharas on Sunday October 08, 2023 @04:12AM (#37808717)
Didn't Graeber speak with people who self-reported their jobs being "bullshit"? Doesn't really sound like:

> look at other people's work and conclude that it's useless just because you don't personally watch them all day.

Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by astrange on Sunday October 08, 2023 @04:15AM (#37808728)
Those people were harmlessly bullshitting (or maybe demonstrating the concept of revealed preferences), but you're still doing it when you take them too seriously and proclaim it's a society wide trend.

(Not you personally I mean.)

Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by pdimitar on Sunday October 08, 2023 @09:17AM (#37810192)
I dunno man, a manager taking home $500K a year when all they ever did was draw charts that NOBODY looked at (not even the CEO or the CFO, not once, I asked them; and not any of the other managers too) and just to ask us every now and then how are things going, seems quite opposite to harmless bullshitting.

That guy could have been fired and we would have just elected one of us to keep track of several tickets once a week and we'd have been better off.

People get assigned to high-paid bullshit jobs all the time, and most of them are aware of it and do their best to hold on to them. Nothing really complex, it's all perverse incentives all the way down.

Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by hotnfresh on Sunday October 08, 2023 @11:44AM (#37811485)
There must be bubbles at play. Like some folks just don’t closely know enough people in enough parts of the economy to see what the other bubble sees, so assumes they’re wrong or exaggerating just to have a laugh or something.

There are definitely bullshit jobs, and jobs that are mostly bullshit.