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Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by uoaei on Sunday October 08, 2023 @03:00AM (#37808445)
I guess misconceptions like these are why theorists abandoned the term 'communism' in favor of 'communalism' to explain what they meant.

This isn't even a no-true-scotsman argument, but if all that comes to mind when communism comes up is Soviet dictatorship, the cold war propaganda worked.

Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by tilne on Sunday October 08, 2023 @05:49AM (#37809154)
What should come to mind when communism comes up then?
Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by coxmichael on Sunday October 08, 2023 @05:55AM (#37809173)
Something along the lines of: A socioeconomic order centered around common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange that allocates products to everyone in the society based on need.

I guess the point of the poster above is that the word communism just confuses things in the initial statement — it’s just a dictatorship. Socialists and communists fairly uniquely believe in workplace democracy.

Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by harimau777 on Sunday October 08, 2023 @09:27AM (#37810256)
A rule of thumb that makes sense to me is that communism generally differs from socialism in that it advocates one or more of the following:

- People actually living and working in communes.

- Abolition of private property (note: this is not the same as personal property).

- Extreme redistribution and/or equality in wealth/income.

I'm sure that this isn't a perfect heuristic; however, I think it's often useful for detecting when someone is trying to describe something as communism in order to make it look bad.

Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by darkwater on Sunday October 08, 2023 @06:28AM (#37809310)
Just read your sibling comment, talking about gulags or it is not communism...
Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by harimau777 on Sunday October 08, 2023 @09:28AM (#37810265)
For what it's worth, I understood the parent post to specifically be referring to instances like Stalinism, Maoism, etc. since it says specifically "communist dictatorship".
Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by uoaei on Sunday October 08, 2023 @11:47AM (#37811508)
I suspect there was a sneaky edit between the time of my reply and the time you read it.