Overshooting Earth’s Boundaries: An Interview with Bill Rees

Re:Overshooting Earth’s Boundaries: An Interview with Bill Rees by RandomLensman on Friday October 06, 2023 @03:40PM (#37795268)

We have no idea what systems we really need to survive. The claim that it needs an unmanageable myriad of systems etc. is a hypothesis that might turn out to be not true.

We might very well be capable of providing a minium set given enough energy at our disposal. Life might not be pretty etc. in the such a case, but that isn't the point here.

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Re:Overshooting Earth’s Boundaries: An Interview with Bill Rees by monkaiju on Saturday October 07, 2023 @10:06AM (#37801813)

Theoretically sure, remotely probably, no. This is how interacting with sufficiently complex systems works, eventually you just need to accept that it cannot be fully quantified and rationalized.

Also you presented it as 'we could just strip mine the world' lol, not exactly a nuanced take

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Re:Overshooting Earth’s Boundaries: An Interview with Bill Rees by RandomLensman on Saturday October 07, 2023 @01:14PM (#37803506)

Wasn't supposed to be a nuanced take. The idea that huge complex systems in intricate balance are needed for humans is just not well supported.

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Re:Overshooting Earth’s Boundaries: An Interview with Bill Rees by monkaiju on Monday October 09, 2023 @11:07PM (#37828112)

It is tho... its literally the only way humans have ever been sustainably supported

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