CCC Invites to the 37th Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg

Re:CCC Invites to the 37th Chaos Communication Congress in H... by seabass-labrax on Friday October 06, 2023 @11:44AM (#37792311)

I'll be going to Hamburg soon, as it happens, and it really disappoints me that there is no ferry service from anywhere in Britain to Hamburg. In fact, there are no ferry routes between the UK and Germany at all; the only one going vaguely the right direction arrives in the Netherlands.

Getting from Britain to mainland Europe by sea isn't cheap: ferries from Plymouth to Roscoff are usually over €200 each direction, no meal, no cabin, no car - one adult. And the ships are so massive that it cannot be for anything but artificial scarcity; I'd estimate you could fit about ten thousand people on one of their ships before it would begin to feel crowded.

An affordable ferry with a cabin would allow me to set off at noon, cross Britain from west to east, spend the night crossing the North Sea and arrive refreshed the next day in Bremen/Hamburg ready to use a Deutschlandticket or similar to continue by rail within Germany.

What I have chosen to do in the absence of such a service is purchase a €200 Interrail ticket for 4 days, reserve the Eurostar (Channel Tunnel) train for €60, and reserve an extra night at a hotel in Belgium for each direction. End result: a total of more than €500 and 36 hours travelling.

It's not easy being a climate-conscious traveller.

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Re:CCC Invites to the 37th Chaos Communication Congress in H... by morita2342 on Friday October 06, 2023 @12:08PM (#37792604)

I've recently looked for ship connections. Next to being surprised that Hamburg had indeed no decent ferry services, it was quite difficult to search for and I had to even contact (via forms) multiple shipping companies.

Maybe someone would like to build a climate-conscious travel search engine that includes all these routes.

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Re:CCC Invites to the 37th Chaos Communication Congress in H... by tannhaeuser on Saturday October 07, 2023 @05:02AM (#37800198)

FWIW the last ferry service connecting Hamburg and Harwich closed down in 2002. As to traveling by container ship, as recently as 2019 I saw Hamburg Süd (now belonging to Maersk) advertising classic passages, but I'm guessing those go to China and southeast Asia considering container freight to/from UK would fit on small feeder ships today ;) If you're into the nostalgic aspect of traveling via ships, be sure to visit MS Cap San Diego in Hamburg, a freight ship (now a still sea-worthy museum) from just before the container boom in the 60s, it's absolutely fantastic and highly recommended.

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Re:CCC Invites to the 37th Chaos Communication Congress in H... by seabass-labrax on Monday October 09, 2023 @07:08PM (#37826596)

Thank you for the recommendation! I might get a chance to visit during the short few days I'm there :)

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