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Re:OpenAI's justification for why training data is fair use,... by dcow on Thursday October 05, 2023 @05:44PM (#37784661)
I am a product of the impressions left by massive heaps of copyrighted content. One song on the radio is just a rhetorical device.

If OpenAI rented all humanity’s media from a library and used them to train an AI model then that seems 100% ethical to me.

Now if you ask the model to recite the script to Breaking Bad and it does so perfectly and I think that grants me copyright authority over it then we’re going to have problems. It’s just not the model or tool’s problem.

Re:OpenAI's justification for why training data is fair use,... by dmbche on Thursday October 05, 2023 @11:37PM (#37786896)
Did OpenAi rent it? Or did they get it without respect for copyright?

How about you?

This is the point

Re:OpenAI's justification for why training data is fair use,... by dcow on Friday October 06, 2023 @10:19AM (#37791119)
You’re lost in the weeds. I know that’s the point it’s why the whole song on the radio thought experiment got brought up. The question was, if an AI model trains on public radio waves, and hears a copyrighted song, is that infringement? My position is no, it’s not because the radio station had a license to broadcast that song on the radio.

Similar, if all the books used to train a model are available in the library, so long as someone rents the books, then they can be used to train a model.

The question was directed at you. I don’t know why you’re repeating it back to me like I didn't know what I was asking…

Re:OpenAI's justification for why training data is fair use,... by dmbche on Friday October 06, 2023 @01:07PM (#37793313)
Feel free to chat with a lawyer on copyright